ACA (Obamacare) updates for 2014

15 Feb 2014 11:01 #211 by Venturer
:like: The wave of the future if you don't already go to Canada or Mexico for treatment.

LOL wrote:

BlazerBob wrote:
This is funny, I don't care who you are.



Its no joke, check out the Docs web page and statement on Medicare. Expect to see more of this coming in the future.

http://www.samuelvallerymd.com/medicare.html

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15 Feb 2014 21:14 #212 by Blazer Bob
Doesn't matter if it works or not, it is adorable.



http://www.barackobama.com/obamacare/adorable-care-act/


Seriously, do they pay people to come up with this stuff.

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17 Feb 2014 04:50 #213 by LOL
This is one of the longest lasting CH threads on here lately Rev!
You'll have to change the title to Feb 2014

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17 Feb 2014 07:56 #214 by Reverend Revelant
Obamacare changes a negative for insurers: Moody's

The credit rating agency on Thursday warned that two recent proposals to change the rules of the Affordable Care Act, yet again, would be "further credit negatives for health insurers."

One proposed change would be to pressure insurers to increase the size of medical provider networks offered to their customers. The other would be to allow people insured by plans that are no longer compliant with ACA standards to maintain that coverage through 2016.

The proposals threaten not only the bottom lines of insurers, but also the pocketbooks of consumers, who would face likely higher premiums as a result, Moody's said.

The rating agency noted that the developments follow announcements from insurance giants Aetna, Cigna and Humana that they "expect to earn negative margins on their [Obamacare health insurance] exchange business in 2014."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101414902?__sour ... 0a%20negat


Part of the idea of Obamacare was to take down the private insurance companies anyway, on the road to government supplied health care. Right on schedule.

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17 Feb 2014 08:15 #215 by Rick

Reverend Revelant wrote: Obamacare changes a negative for insurers: Moody's

The credit rating agency on Thursday warned that two recent proposals to change the rules of the Affordable Care Act, yet again, would be "further credit negatives for health insurers."

One proposed change would be to pressure insurers to increase the size of medical provider networks offered to their customers. The other would be to allow people insured by plans that are no longer compliant with ACA standards to maintain that coverage through 2016.

The proposals threaten not only the bottom lines of insurers, but also the pocketbooks of consumers, who would face likely higher premiums as a result, Moody's said.

The rating agency noted that the developments follow announcements from insurance giants Aetna, Cigna and Humana that they "expect to earn negative margins on their [Obamacare health insurance] exchange business in 2014."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101414902?__sour ... 0a%20negat


Part of the idea of Obamacare was to take down the private insurance companies anyway, on the road to government supplied health care. Right on schedule.


How can these companies have negative margins when "the law" clearly has a get out of jail free card (bailout) for then WHEN the numbers fail to work out? Unless of course Obama uses his pen and his phone to change that part of "the law" too.

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17 Feb 2014 10:31 #216 by FredHayek
And still the Oregon exchange, after spending hundreds of millions still has yet to sign up one paid client.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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17 Feb 2014 15:27 #217 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: And still the Oregon exchange, after spending hundreds of millions still has yet to sign up one paid client.


Yeah, sounds like the usual free-enterpriser/capitalist/contractor got rich ($304 million) at the federal government's expense without providing the services and systems that it was obligated to produce.

....Imagine my surprise...

Apparently, the state has "focused on their success at getting people enrolled despite the website’s problems, saying they’ve managed to extend health coverage to more than 200,000 people, many of whom didn’t have it before.

Apparently when they finally switch over to the federal system, they will finally start getting the coverage they deserve.

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17 Feb 2014 16:35 #218 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote:

FredHayek wrote: And still the Oregon exchange, after spending hundreds of millions still has yet to sign up one paid client.


Yeah, sounds like the usual free-enterpriser/capitalist/contractor got rich ($304 million) at the federal government's expense without providing the services and systems that it was obligated to produce.

....Imagine my surprise...

Apparently, the state has "focused on their success at getting people enrolled despite the website’s problems, saying they’ve managed to extend health coverage to more than 200,000 people, many of whom didn’t have it before.

Apparently when they finally switch over to the federal system, they will finally start getting the coverage they deserve.


Er... the federal system is not working up to snuff either.

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17 Feb 2014 16:41 #219 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote: Apparently when they finally switch over to the federal system, they will finally start getting the coverage they deserve.


Sure...

Quiet fixes to healthcare.gov are helping some shoppers on the troubled website, but some still remain without insurance coverage. In the meantime, insurers are skeptical the latest marketplace enrollment numbers are cause for health law optimism.

USA Today: Help For Some -- But Not All -- Stymied Insurance Shoppers
Many consumers who have waited months to resolve insurance application issues on healthcare.gov are finally getting help, but some are still stuck in limbo without Medicaid or insurance coverage, and many of the site's most vexing problems remain, according to insurers, brokers and state Medicaid officials. Applications that take days, clueless customer service representatives and error-ridden or orphan files persist. Changes made to the website last week will solve many of these problems, but the fixes were made so quietly that few brokers and consumers were aware of them, says Jessica Waltman, senior vice president of government affairs for the National Association of Health Underwriters, which represents insurance agents and brokers (O'Donnell, 2/13).

http://www.news-medical.net/news/201402 ... stuck.aspx
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... i=11941370


I bet those folks in Oregon can't wait to tackle the federal system.

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17 Feb 2014 19:20 #220 by LOL
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... i=11941370

That was a great article Rev. I thought it was mighty nice of ol Uncle Sam to update their computers to allow people to have "Life changes" and be able to edit their personal info on Heathcare.Gov. So thoughtful of those Bureaucrats... LOL

ATTENTION EVERYONE: The Givernment has now updated their billion dollar computers, and approved you (loyal subject) for permission to make "LIFE CHANGES" and promptly report them now to HEALTHCARE.GOV. Hurry Hurry!
Please sign on to Healthcare.gov and report your "Life changes" so we can re-determine your subsidy and/or "shared responsibility payment", er tax, er fine, er fee, er penalty, uh err or whatever ASAP. Thank you loyal subjects.

Thanks Obama! Get Covered!
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