LOL - some things just stand the test of time! I'd love to get my hands on that box set but doubt that I ever will. We do have "That Was the Year that Was". I particularly loved "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park".
Back to the Buddhists though, I have studied Tibetan Buddhism for a while and have gone to some retreats. I don't thing the neighbors have anything to worry about. Worst case scenario may be the stampede of retreat newbies down the hill to a McDonalds at the end of a two or three day fasting retreat!
For things to reveal themselves to us, we need to be ready to abandon our views about them.”
― Thích Nhất Hạnh, Being Peace
SO SIMPLE a statement,but habits are HARD to change...I have friends that live across from that
retreat. ..the noise of the hyway traffic is far worse than anything the Monastery could produce.
ScienceChic wrote: Blazer Bob, it's not a political affiliation issue at all; it's a NIMBY complaint..
I do not think I said or implied that it was. It is not my fault that liberals hate jews. I assume that is what you are referencing. Am I wrong?
Yes. Liberals don't hate Jews and conservatives don't hate Muslims - that's a stereotyping, assumption statement injecting politics into an issue that has nothing to do with politics, and steering good discussion about a local issue off into liberals vs conservatives.
Sorry, rant off.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
ScienceChic wrote: Blazer Bob, it's not a political affiliation issue at all; it's a NIMBY complaint..
I do not think I said or implied that it was. It is not my fault that liberals hate jews. I assume that is what you are referencing. Am I wrong?
Yes. Liberals don't hate Jews and conservatives don't hate Muslims - that's a stereotyping, assumption statement injecting politics into an issue that has nothing to do with politics, and steering good discussion about a local issue off into liberals vs conservatives.
Sorry, rant off.
You are half right. Conservatives do not hate muslims.
The first answer in that link:
"A lot of very naive and uninformed answers on this question.
Antisemitism in the U.S. is indeed largely the product of the far, far left. Not liberals, as we think of the mainstream left. Many Jewish-Americans are themselves liberal politically, and most liberals are welcoming or at least tolerant of Jews and Judaism. What I'm talking about the fringe left...
Now, in fairness, there are a few hard right groups who embrace anti-semitic views: neo-nazi types, and the Klan, but these folks are few in number and in the Klan's case, a shadow of its former self. It's now primarily a viewpoint found in the far left, no question about it. "
So I say again, a mischaracterization, a stereotype, that does nothing to further good conversation, either about politics, or about the issue of the local Buddhist monastery looking to expand. Sorry, but that's how I call it.
MtnGramma, thank you for pointing out that detail. I didn't intend to go in-depth about how I hoped that they might make it available for others, and if they can't/won't then we are still sorely lacking in a large meeting-type space for the area.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
I agree that this issue has more to do with NIMBY than much of anything else. I know a few people that live up near the Jeffco/Park county line and a big part of them wanting to buy the properties they have now was that nothing was on any of the adjacent lots or the adjacent lots were all zoned for agricultural use at the time. Unfortunately zoning can be changed and despite the last couple of catastrophic wildfire seasons people are buying mountain properties again and building on them.
If the neighbors of the Buddhist monastery had/have concerns they should take them up with the Jefferson County zoning commission before they approved the zoning change (and maybe they did - I don't know if that happened or not). I understand the concerns over the additional traffic in the area and increased number of people staying on the monastery property.
There is a potential for visitors to the monastery to accidentally (or otherwise) trespass on to a neighbors property but I think that issue could be easily addressed by the monastery as a set of rules/policies for visiting and staying at the monastery. Neighbors of the monastery can return the favor by maintaining open communications with the monastery and the monastery addressing issues with their visitors if/when they happen. Fences make good neighbors but good neighbors make a better neighborhood. When problems occur everyone's efforts are best focused on solving the problem and less focused on assigning blame to the guilty party. By the same token, when the guilty party steps up to admit wrong doing and/or mistakes and commits to correcting the situation everyone gains.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
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