deltamrey wrote: Me also - MJ is THE gateway dope to opiates - well proven. Our children are the real victims - put the dealers in the pen and throw away the key. Hope this doper enjoys those LA chain gangs - they still exist I assure you.
Gateway my @@s, it saved me during 6 months of chemo when all the man made chemicals failed to give me an appetite, control nausia, and help me to sleep. I was vaporizing it throughout the day, every day for two weeks a month.
So now that I'm done, do I crave MJ? No. Do I still use it to help me sleep? Yes, at times.
I also smoked when I was younger and it never led me to other drugs....it also was never addictive. This is just my experience, but over the years I've seen far more lives ruined by alcohol and can't think of a case where one of my pot smoking buddies turned into a drug addict.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
The largest problem with the "Medical" marijuana is that they didn't in fact treat it like a prescription drug where you had to go to a licensed pharmacy to fill your prescription. The whole "caretaker" and "dispensary" nonsense has turned it into nothing more than an end around the illicit drug laws for those who want to imbibe for recreational purposes. Yes, there are indeed people like CB who are suffering from debilitating conditions who receive a benefit from it, but by and large my perception, shared by many, is that people like CB are only a small fraction of the total number who have obtained their MMJ card. The rest are simply recreational users gaming the system.
You want marijuana to be legal for recreational use? Fine - get the current laws repealed that make it illegal to consume for that purpose. If you can't, then you imbibe at the risk of incarceration. We are a nation of laws after all. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Whether the recreational buzz is worth risking your freedom is something each person must decide for themselves. If you knowingly violate the law, you knowingly open yourself to being punished for your transgression. I have no sympathy or empathy for the man in question. He knew the risks and decided he could beat them. Sucks for him that he was wrong.
deltamrey wrote: Me also - MJ is THE gateway dope to opiates - well proven. Our children are the real victims - put the dealers in the pen and throw away the key. Hope this doper enjoys those LA chain gangs - they still exist I assure you.
I read where it was proven, that 100% of marijuana users had eaten carrots or drank milk as children.
I agree about the caregiver thing...it's turned into a joke. When I got my license, the waiting room was packed with dreadlock wearing/skateboard riding/ looking for easy money 20 year old males. I saw nobody there that looked like they "needed" it. That said, I still don't think it does as much damage to society as booze.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
deltamrey wrote: Me also - MJ is THE gateway dope to opiates - well proven. Our children are the real victims - put the dealers in the pen and throw away the key. Hope this doper enjoys those LA chain gangs - they still exist I assure you.
This statement is complete BS. The save the children line is old and tired and the last gasp of the people who want to keep it illegal. The US has spent already spent $15 BILLION dollars this year alone on keeping this illegal.
http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock
Tylenol is more lethal than MJ. Proven fact. NO ONE has ever died from ingesting MJ, EVER.
The alcohol lobby, Big Pharma, Monsanto and law enforcement who's salaries and budgets depend on MJ being illegal have been pouring tons of money into keeping it that way. Politicians can use it as a quick point scorer by saying that they are saving the children. Thank Bob that the government is saving us from a weed that grows wild all over the world and has NEVER been responsible for one death from ingestion.
Republicans are for less government intrusion into everyone's lives, greater personal liberties and smaller government and less government spending. That sounds to me like every Republican should be for the repeal of MJ laws.
When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter
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The alcohol lobby, Big Pharma, Monsanto and law enforcement who's salaries and budgets depend on MJ being illegal have been pouring tons of money into keeping it that way. Politicians can use it as a quick point scorer by saying that they are saving the children. Thank Bob that the government is saving us from a weed that grows wild all over the world and has NEVER been responsible for one death from ingestion.
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You left out the growers, traffickers, dealers etc. I read that the big money against the Ca. initiative last year were the growers.
PrintSmith wrote: The largest problem with the "Medical" marijuana is that they didn't in fact treat it like a prescription drug where you had to go to a licensed pharmacy to fill your prescription. The whole "caretaker" and "dispensary" nonsense has turned it into nothing more than an end around the illicit drug laws for those who want to imbibe for recreational purposes. Yes, there are indeed people like CB who are suffering from debilitating conditions who receive a benefit from it, but by and large my perception, shared by many, is that people like CB are only a small fraction of the total number who have obtained their MMJ card. The rest are simply recreational users gaming the system.
You want marijuana to be legal for recreational use? Fine - get the current laws repealed that make it illegal to consume for that purpose. If you can't, then you imbibe at the risk of incarceration. We are a nation of laws after all. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Whether the recreational buzz is worth risking your freedom is something each person must decide for themselves. If you knowingly violate the law, you knowingly open yourself to being punished for your transgression. I have no sympathy or empathy for the man in question. He knew the risks and decided he could beat them. Sucks for him that he was wrong.
<<shrug>> I must agree fully.
-->Sorry for my friction in the past PS, I DO in fact take a lot of what you say as good info.
