W.H. Insider Says Panetta Ordered The Attack, not Obama

Okay, so here's my thoughts on this whole thing...

I'm not going to take either side... because honestly this is a victory for Obama whether he gave the order or not. This, in my mind, is a victory for the American people, people who love their freedom, and all the countries in the world that are currently battling terrorism that acts in the name of any religion.

So... all of that said...

I can't imagine Obama being the kind of President that says "Leave no man alive". Honestly? It's what I would have said... but Barack Obama giving that order? I don't see it, I can't see it. That's not the man that has displayed himself in the media.. Heck, this is the same President that had to be chastized into "getting angry" and saying the words "ass to kick".

And then a few days coming out and saying that people who didn't think Bin Laden got what he deserved "needed their head examined"? Seriously?

I think the real disconnect here is either Deomcrats have to accept that those statements above are the man they elected, and he gave the order, or those are *not* the words of the man they elected, and it's all for PR.

Take your pick, but you can't have both. Who is the man you elected, and what do you think he stands for? Who is our President, really, when all the cameras are off? Could he give the order to kill OBL whether he's armed or not, whether he poses an imminent threat or not? I'm not sure.

The article I posted covers this to some degree.

Under Clinton, there was no authority to kill such targets unless in self defense.

That changed under Bush right after 9/11. He signed an order authorizing the CIA to kill al Qaeda leaders. And much later we started the drone program.

Bush's order stayed in effect until today. It has never been rescinded. The CIA still had that authority when they were sent after bin Laden.

But some Clinton aides, led by attorney general Janet Reno, were concerned about the legality of killing bin Laden, former top intelligence and counter-terrorism officials said. Clinton's orders permitted U.S. forces to kill bin Laden in self-defense, but the prime directive was to capture him and bring him to justice in the United States.

The September 11, 2001, attacks in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania instantly made such scruples seem anachronistic.

Bush's September 17, 2001, order, which is still highly classified, authorized the CIA to use all methods at its disposal -- explicitly including deadly force -- to wipe out al Qaeda and its leaders.

Presidential covert action findings never expire unless a president issues a new written order suspending or revoking them, current and former U.S. national security officials told Reuters. So Bush's nine-and-a-half-year-old order remained a key legal authority under which Obama launched the commando raid that led to bin Laden's death.

Nmysys wrote: Archer:

For an old broad you sure haven't learned anything in all those years of being on the earth.

If you don't like what I post then don't read it! I don't have to do a damn thing to please you or any of the other Liberals that can't wait to pounce on what I post. You haven't had any opinions of your own, just attacks on me so why don't you go back on your meds!!! You sure can't survive without jumping on everything and anything that I post. So now I won't give you the satisfaction of my opinion.

Chill out old man....I did not jump on you, or attack you, I simply asked you for your opinion on the article, and so far you have refused to answer that simple question....is it any surprise that we start making up excuses on why you won't give your opinion....

You sound like 3 yr old, now you won't give your opinion because your itty bitty feelings were hurt? grow up, if you can't take the heat here, then perhaps you should find someplace else to play.

Hey nmysys...if I had posted that I wouldn't give you my opinion when asked because you had attacked my posts...you and every other conservative here would have been all over that post and been relentless in your attacks.

archer wrote: nmysys....once again a copy paste without comment. You love to post this stuff and see what happens. How about you give us YOUR take on this rumor before the thread heads off into another direction. Will you put yourself on record as to your judgement on it's veracity?

Funny that once again the very one that complains about this post and its author seldom if ever authors an original post. Whatever.

I don't think Obama had any choice but to say "kill him", otherwise they would have to read his Maranda Rights and treat him like a common criminal as per his new more "humane" policy. He knew there would be no place to hold him that wouldn't piss voters off on either side (which he couldn't afford to do). So I doubt Obama was left out of the loop since there was so much at stake for his election prospects.

Now what to do with KSM?

archer wrote: Hey nmysys...if I had posted that I wouldn't give you my opinion when asked because you had attacked my posts...you and every other conservative here would have been all over that post and been relentless in your attacks.

You think very highly of yourself. Truth be told, very few conservatives here really care about your opinions. We just like to watch you squirm.


Back on topic. I think it will be interesting over the months/years to learn the truth. No surprise Barry was a "no show". Historically speaking, it's his MO.

you have posted that before trouble, repeating yourself now?...Where in the TOS does it say you cannot comment on posts unless you author a certain number of threads? I must have missed that paragraph. FYI....I have authored posts, and if you took the time to look you would find them. But you seem more prone to complaining about me than providing anything of substance yourself. Do YOU have any comments on the OP?

Yawn.

Trouble wrote:

archer wrote: Hey nmysys...if I had posted that I wouldn't give you my opinion when asked because you had attacked my posts...you and every other conservative here would have been all over that post and been relentless in your attacks.

You think very highly of yourself. Truth be told, very few conservatives here really care about your opinions. We just like to watch you squirm.


Back on topic. I think it will be interesting over the months/years to learn the truth. No surprise Barry was a "no show". Historically speaking, it's his MO.

There are probebly as many conservatives who care about my posts as there are liberals who care about yours So what's your point?