Straw poll

19 May 2011 15:59 #11 by pineinthegrass
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So does this poll prove Obama can win the Republican primary? lol

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19 May 2011 16:04 #12 by chickaree
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It's not a poll about the primary, but about the election. If I'd been aware of anyone planning to primary Obama I'd have included them also.

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20 May 2011 13:09 #13 by FredHayek
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I bet Kucinich runs against Obama. He likes the limelight.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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20 May 2011 14:01 #14 by ScienceChic
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http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/jon ... te-problem
Jon Huntsman's Climate Problem
— By Kate Sheppard
| Thu May. 19, 2011

Jon Huntsman is gaining traction as the notably less-unelectable potential GOP presidential candidate. So far, he hasn't said or done anything (ahem, Gingrich) that hurts his prospects. Unless, that is, you count his remarkably sane comments on climate change.

Time's recent profile http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 03,00.html of Huntsman, until recently the Obama adminstration's ambassador to China, is most notable for all the policy areas that Huntsman declined to weigh in on (including Afghanistan, Libya, or any specific issue on which he differs from either Obama or his fellow Republicans). But in excerpts of the interview http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/16/qa ... eir-ranks/ released this week the potential candidate does offer his thoughts on both climate change and the policies with which to address it. And while he now rejects cap and trade, he doesn't dispute the underlying science:

It's a refreshing position coming from mainstream (if moderate) Republican, but does it go too far for his partymates? So it seems. The Competitive Enterprise Institute's Chris Horner unleashed a storm of barely readable crazy http://spectator.org/blog/2011/05/17/mo ... oughts-fro at the American Spectator lambasting Huntsman's statement. Writing at Commentary, http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/ ... -huntsman/ Jonathan S. Tobin demand a Tim Pawlenty-style apology from Huntsman renouncing his climate views. (Lisa Hymas has more on the right-wing response over at http://www.grist.org/election-2012/2011 ... candidates Grist.)


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 03,00.html
Jon Huntsman: The Potential Republican Presidential Candidate Democrats Most Fear
By Melinda Henneberger / Columbia, S.C.
Thursday, May 12, 2011

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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20 May 2011 14:04 #15 by AspenValley
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Nobody here likes Newt so far. Interesting.

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20 May 2011 14:09 #16 by Pony Soldier
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Science Chic wrote: motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/jon-huntsmans-climate-problem
Jon Huntsman's Climate Problem
— By Kate Sheppard
| Thu May. 19, 2011

Jon Huntsman is gaining traction as the notably less-unelectable potential GOP presidential candidate. So far, he hasn't said or done anything (ahem, Gingrich) that hurts his prospects. Unless, that is, you count his remarkably sane comments on climate change.

Time's recent profile http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 03,00.html of Huntsman, until recently the Obama adminstration's ambassador to China, is most notable for all the policy areas that Huntsman declined to weigh in on (including Afghanistan, Libya, or any specific issue on which he differs from either Obama or his fellow Republicans). But in excerpts of the interview http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/16/qa ... eir-ranks/ released this week the potential candidate does offer his thoughts on both climate change and the policies with which to address it. And while he now rejects cap and trade, he doesn't dispute the underlying science:

It's a refreshing position coming from mainstream (if moderate) Republican, but does it go too far for his partymates? So it seems. The Competitive Enterprise Institute's Chris Horner unleashed a storm of barely readable crazy http://spectator.org/blog/2011/05/17/mo ... oughts-fro at the American Spectator lambasting Huntsman's statement. Writing at Commentary, http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/ ... -huntsman/ Jonathan S. Tobin demand a Tim Pawlenty-style apology from Huntsman renouncing his climate views. (Lisa Hymas has more on the right-wing response over at http://www.grist.org/election-2012/2011 ... candidates Grist.)


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 03,00.html
Jon Huntsman: The Potential Republican Presidential Candidate Democrats Most Fear
By Melinda Henneberger / Columbia, S.C.
Thursday, May 12, 2011



He's done. Must be a socialist!

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20 May 2011 14:12 #17 by archer
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everyone's a socialist except nmysys and maybe outdoor

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20 May 2011 14:22 #18 by AspenValley
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towermonkey wrote: He's done. Must be a socialist!


You're joking but you raise an interesting point.

A candidate has to be a complete hardcore, extreme right-wing type to win the support of the Tea Partiers and hence the Republican nomination but anyone they like is not going to be electable in a general election.

I think they've painted themselves into a corner.

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20 May 2011 14:33 #19 by Blazer Bob
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AspenValley wrote: Nobody here likes Newt so far. Interesting.


He's so yesterday.

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20 May 2011 14:34 #20 by archer
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AspenValley wrote:

towermonkey wrote: He's done. Must be a socialist!


You're joking but you raise an interesting point.

A candidate has to be a complete hardcore, extreme right-wing type to win the support of the Tea Partiers and hence the Republican nomination but anyone they like is not going to be electable in a general election.

I think they've painted themselves into a corner.


Right on AV, it all started to crack after this last election when the tea party members realized that some of the republicans, even ones they helped elect, were not following the tea party dictates and are now being targeted for removal. They may have been elected because they could appeal to some independents, but if you take away that appeal with far right, hard core tea party candidates, the Republicans could well lose some of their gains.

I think the tea party is at a point where they either have to mellow into the existing Republican party and accept some moderates, or break away and create their own party.

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