why the left is dying

02 Aug 2011 12:36 #31 by AspenValley
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PrintSmith wrote: With regards to the last, the history of our currency is properly laid at the feet of the progressive movement. Wilson and Democrats created the Federal Reserve, FDR and Democrats took us off of the gold standard and LBJ and Democrats created a situation whereby our currency could no longer be redeemed in gold as it had been since 1879. That isn't spin, it is history


And what about all those years of Republican administrations and Republican congressional control ever since? Have all those years of inaction been erased from your "history book"?

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02 Aug 2011 12:38 #32 by archer
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AspenValley wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: With regards to the last, the history of our currency is properly laid at the feet of the progressive movement. Wilson and Democrats created the Federal Reserve, FDR and Democrats took us off of the gold standard and LBJ and Democrats created a situation whereby our currency could no longer be redeemed in gold as it had been since 1879. That isn't spin, it is history


And what about all those years of Republican administrations and Republican congressional control ever since? Have all those years of inaction been erased from your "history book"?


I'm quite sure that anything those Republicans did wrong can be blamed on the Democrats.

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02 Aug 2011 13:06 #33 by PrintSmith
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Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth.
A Time for Choosing - Ronald Reagan

Thanks for opening up that door for one of my favorite Reaganisms AV.

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02 Aug 2011 13:08 #34 by LadyJazzer
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There was no coup... But thanks for playing.

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02 Aug 2011 13:09 #35 by PrintSmith
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There was a coup, but thanks for playing.

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02 Aug 2011 13:10 #36 by LadyJazzer
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There was no coup d'etat. There was a popular president, who was elected...along with an unbreakable majority of Congress, ALSO elected, and they packed the court, as was their Constitutional right, with the judges of their choice and who were confirmed. You've conveniently ignored my reponse in a previous message:

How did he happen to HAVE that huge majority in Congress?... Oh wait... He came in after Herbert Hoover started the Depression, and the people were fed up with the incompetence of the REPUBLICAN administration that destroyed the economy. So, they cleaned house, and kicked out all of the Republicans... Dang... That must hurt.

FDR succeeded because the Republicans blew it, and the Dems took over control... How did they get control?...They were voted in by the PEOPLE who were fed up with the Republicans.

If the Republicans didn't like it, they had the same Constitutional rules to change it ... by voting their party back into office and replacing the court....

Ironic isn't it that the man chosen to lead the country out of the ill-informed Republican governance that brought on the Depression and Crash of 1929, elected someone they saw as their savior to the previous Hoover administration's elitism and nincompoopery. Who would have thought that the same moronic idiocy that didn't work in 1929, would be the "Call of the Righties" in 2011?

Isn't it also fascinating that this alleged "dictator", "usurper", was ELECTED to the office FOUR TIMES... I guess if the PEOPLE were so unhappy, or thought he was doing such a lousy job, or that he had somehow STOLEN their country from them, they could have run a better candidate and voted him out of office... That's how it's done... Elections... (A difficult concept for you, I'm sure...if you can't suppress the vote, play games with the ballot boxes, or find enough ways to do dirty tricks on your opponents...) But if he was so bad, why didn't they vote him out and replace him?

Sorry, Nutter, but your coup d'etat rant is so much bullsh*t. But thanks for playing.

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02 Aug 2011 13:21 #37 by PrintSmith
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Coup d'etat - literally translated from the French - "stroke of state" - yep, fits there.

A coup d'état succeeds if the usurpers establish their dominance when the incumbent fails to prevent or successfully resist their consolidation of power. - By golly, a direct hit!

Speaking of hits:
Coup - from French: blow, from Latin colaphus blow with the fist, from Greek kolaphos

We also have:
Coup - a highly successful, unexpected stroke, act, or move; a clever action or accomplishment.

Coup - A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover. - Starting to get the idea?

Coup - A brilliantly executed stratagem; a triumph. - Even LJ would have to agree this definition fits extremely well.

So yes LJ, what FDR and Congress did is accurately labeled a coup. Once again your continued denial of the obvious does little to alter reality as it exists.

But thanks for playing. lol

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02 Aug 2011 13:34 #38 by FredHayek
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LadyJazzer wrote: There was no coup d'etat. There was a popular president, who was elected...along with an unbreakable majority of Congress, ALSO elected, and they packed the court, as was their Constitutional right, with the judges of their choice and who were confirmed. You've conveniently ignored my reponse in a previous message:

How did he happen to HAVE that huge majority in Congress?... Oh wait... He came in after Herbert Hoover started the Depression, and the people were fed up with the incompetence of the REPUBLICAN administration that destroyed the economy. So, they cleaned house, and kicked out all of the Republicans... Dang... That must hurt.

FDR succeeded because the Republicans blew it, and the Dems took over control... How did they get control?...They were voted in by the PEOPLE who were fed up with the Republicans.

If the Republicans didn't like it, they had the same Constitutional rules to change it ... by voting their party back into office and replacing the court....

Ironic isn't it that the man chosen to lead the country out of the ill-informed Republican governance that brought on the Depression and Crash of 1929, elected someone they saw as their savior to the previous Hoover administration's elitism and nincompoopery. Who would have thought that the same moronic idiocy that didn't work in 1929, would be the "Call of the Righties" in 2011?

Isn't it also fascinating that this alleged "dictator", "usurper", was ELECTED to the office FOUR TIMES... I guess if the PEOPLE were so unhappy, or thought he was doing such a lousy job, or that he had somehow STOLEN their country from them, they could have run a better candidate and voted him out of office... That's how it's done... Elections... (A difficult concept for you, I'm sure...if you can't suppress the vote, play games with the ballot boxes, or find enough ways to do dirty tricks on your opponents...) But if he was so bad, why didn't they vote him out and replace him?

Sorry, Nutter, but your coup d'etat rant is so much bullsh*t. But thanks for playing.


FDR did have a good scam going, don't fix the economy, keep people out of work and they will keep voting for you. While Europe had recovered, the US was still mired in the Great Depression.

I think President Obama is trying to follow that model, increase unemployment from 8 to 9.2%, increase inflation, but don't admit it. Put more people on food stamps than ever before.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Aug 2011 14:03 #39 by LadyJazzer
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No, it wasn't a coup...But thanks for playing.

Too bad that Herbert Hoover started the Depression, and the people were fed up with the incompetence of the REPUBLICAN administration that destroyed the economy. So, they cleaned house, and kicked out all of the Republicans... Dang... That must hurt.

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02 Aug 2011 14:11 #40 by PrintSmith
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Coup - A brilliantly executed stratagem; a triumph.

Tell me what FDR and Congress did doesn't fit this definition from your particular point of view LJ. Go on, tell us their threatening of the court and subsequent packing of it wasn't, from you point of view, a brilliantly executed stratagem and a triumph for the progressive cause.

It was a coup......but thanks for playing.

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