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I agree with you on all parts except for the part I highlighted in blue. Yes, some regions are receiving great rainfall, but comprehensively the pattern is moving toward dryness.Local_Historian wrote: Time to take a good look at the actual history of the 1930s depression. People were still buying cars and homes and jewelry while others were losing their homes and becoming homeless. Movie theaters were MORE crowded during the depression because they were a cheap fantasy escape, which is why many of the movies are very lush, very fantastical for that time period. Color movies were presented to the public. Disney did his best and most popular work in the 1930s. (Does this seem familiar? What are the popular movies of the year so far- that's right, the big production value, dramatic, all kinds of stuff going on movies. And not just this year either - last year as well.)
People have this misconception that EVERYONE was soooo poor and scraping to get by - very far from the truth, and the perception you are operating on now. Denver was a kickin place in the 1930s. Look in the newspapers, check the ads. Check the society pages.
However, all most people were taught in school was about Hoovervilles, and the dust bowl, and Grapes of Wrath. Yep, that was the state of being for a whole lot of people. but not, by far, all people.
This perception is what the government is banking on us relying upon - that we'll go- oh, but not everyone is living in their vans down by the river, so there must not be a depression.
Wrong.
EXACT same patterns of behavior are happening now that happened then. The exceptions are of course - no drought - we've had a surplus of rain and heat in the midwest; the right recipe for very lush, possibly even bumper crops come harvest this year. The other exception? Mass world communication. Everyone knows our problems as a nation, often before its citizens do. We've had a president call for works programs - wait, does this sound familiar? Didn't Obama use almost the exact same words? Calls for all of us to tighten our belts. Calls for the creation of more jobs. Many many speeches designed to calm the worries of the average man.
Seriously, stop looking at popular history and look at real history - there IS a difference.
But don't take my word for it - ask a college professor who specializes in 20th century American history. Because clearly they're going to know more than a former high school teacher who specialized in the same, just has one less piece of paper to show for it. Yes, that was sarcasm.
Here we show that there is a broad consensus among climate models that this region will dry in the 21st century and that the transition to a more arid climate should already be under way. If these models are correct, the levels of aridity of the recent multiyear drought or the Dust Bowl and the 1950s droughts will become the new climatology of the American Southwest within a time frame of years to decades.
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mtntrekker wrote: I've been to the mall and have seen some people buying stuff but if you talk to some of the sales people, sales are down. And just look around the mall at the number of shops that have closed.
LH says it right, it is a depression, not a double dip recession.
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I agree with you on all parts except for the part I highlighted in blue. [/quote]Science Chic wrote: .
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Local_Historian wrote: Archer - my dad's been talking to my 94 year old grandpa and his 92 year old brother. Interesting, since they say this is EXACTLY what the depression looked like -again, barring the drought.
They were all teenagers together during that time - grandpa apparently remembers it vividly. Perhaps being different parts of the country, different lifestyles (thought probably similar economic status), they will have different points of view. Not to be sexist, but the women also saw it different than the men did - that was clear to me by the things my grandma used to say.
I already do a great number of things my grandmother taught me - things she did during the depression. (She got married in 1933 to my other gramps) All to save money, be frugal, make things last longer. I do, however, draw the line are reseaming sheets. I slept on those enough as a kid - I hate em. I just "repurpose" the sheet, to use the modern (bullhonkey) term.
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Local_Historian wrote: [ the major sources are Nebraska and Iowa and Illinois - and talking to people back there, it's been a wet, hot humid year. Perfect corn weather, and now if it starts to dry out, perfect grain weather as well.
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