Rick Perry offers a prayer for Obama at 'The Response' rally

07 Aug 2011 11:35 #11 by Kate
The point of the article I linked to is that many view Perry's platitudes and prayers as an appeasement towards the religious right. I think it's all show to try and obtain their endorsement.

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07 Aug 2011 11:36 #12 by The Viking
And here is a question that I have net heard anyone answer. Why are people so against anyone in our Government praying? Those who sued and protested are basically saying that once you are in office you can no longer pray in public. This was not government sanctioned, not on government property and tax money was not used to fund it, so why are some people so against a Governor leading prayer at a private event?

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07 Aug 2011 11:38 #13 by Kate

The Viking wrote: And here is a question that I have net heard anyone answer. Why are people so against anyone in our Government praying? Those who sued and protested are basically saying that once you are in office you can no longer pray in public. This was not government sanctioned, not on government property and tax money was not used to fund it, so why are some people so against a Governor leading prayer at a private event?


Which one of the many gods should the government pray to? Which is the correct god? That is the question I have never heard anyone answer.

I have no problem with Perry praying to whatever god(s) he wants to in a private assembly. Go for it, Rick. Just don't do it on the public dime.

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07 Aug 2011 11:41 #14 by Kate

The Viking wrote: And here is a question that I have net heard anyone answer. Why are people so against anyone in our Government praying? Those who sued and protested are basically saying that once you are in office you can no longer pray in public. This was not government sanctioned, not on government property and tax money was not used to fund it, so why are some people so against a Governor leading prayer at a private event?


The article you posted did not list any lawsuits. Who is saying that you can't pray in public if you are in elected office?

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07 Aug 2011 11:43 #15 by bailey bud
Oh Lord - save me avoid this debt that I created.......

What a brilliant prayer.

I knew a guy who went out and "bought" a 5,000 sq ft home ---- lost it to foreclosure, and believes (very earnestly) he's being persecuted for his faith........

Now, he's selling vitamins after church......
(another dubious line of business

I have no doubt he'll be a Perry enthusiast - and I'm sure he thinks he'll think he's doing the Lord's business by supporting Perry.......

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07 Aug 2011 11:45 #16 by bailey bud
I'm not against prayer --- but I am for individual responsibility (which I thought most Christians supported)

I've become a skeptic of Public Prayer (Christ pointed out a few obvious problems with it).

It's used too often for political gain, and too seldom for spiritual gain.

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07 Aug 2011 11:49 #17 by The Viking

Kate wrote: The point of the article I linked to is that many view Perry's platitudes and prayers as an appeasement towards the religious right. I think it's all show to try and obtain their endorsement.


WOW! That is 100% not correct. He is a genuine as it gets. He has been like this his whole life. And has a voting record and life to prove it. Who views that? The left who loves obama? Who cares? They will never change their mind anyway. He isn't trying to appease anyone. It was not a show at all.

And I love how you equate MANY with, Reverend Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State and Kathy Miller, executive director of the Texas Freedom Network, a nonpartisan watchdog on far-right religious groups as many! Two anti religion groups. Gee those are ones you want on your side.

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07 Aug 2011 11:52 #18 by The Viking

Kate wrote:

The Viking wrote: And here is a question that I have net heard anyone answer. Why are people so against anyone in our Government praying? Those who sued and protested are basically saying that once you are in office you can no longer pray in public. This was not government sanctioned, not on government property and tax money was not used to fund it, so why are some people so against a Governor leading prayer at a private event?


The article you posted did not list any lawsuits. Who is saying that you can't pray in public if you are in elected office?


It was all over the news about him being sued to stop this event by Athiest and Agnostic groups. Why don't they mind their own business? The cases were thrown out because they are a bunch of whack jobs.

It's like the saying goes...... If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

Same here..... If a Republican doesn't like a religion, he doesn't participate. If a Democrat doesn't like a religion, he wants all religions outlawed.

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07 Aug 2011 11:55 #19 by The Viking

bailey bud wrote: I'm not against prayer --- but I am for individual responsibility (which I thought most Christians supported)

I've become a skeptic of Public Prayer (Christ pointed out a few obvious problems with it).

It's used too often for political gain, and too seldom for spiritual gain.



Absolutely Christians and Republicans are far more for Personal Responsibility than non Christians and Democrats as a whole, but what does that have to do with praying?

And I agree with you on the prayer being used for political gain often and that is why you have to look at a person's history and what they truely belive in.

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07 Aug 2011 11:57 #20 by The Viking

Kate wrote:

The Viking wrote: And here is a question that I have net heard anyone answer. Why are people so against anyone in our Government praying? Those who sued and protested are basically saying that once you are in office you can no longer pray in public. This was not government sanctioned, not on government property and tax money was not used to fund it, so why are some people so against a Governor leading prayer at a private event?


Which one of the many gods should the government pray to? Which is the correct god? That is the question I have never heard anyone answer.

I have no problem with Perry praying to whatever god(s) he wants to in a private assembly. Go for it, Rick. Just don't do it on the public dime.


This was a private assembly and it wasn't on any public dime. That is why I don't get why people are so upset?

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