Michele Bachmann Repeatedly Sought Stimulus, Gov't funds

10 Aug 2011 10:25 #11 by chickaree
Heaven knows I'm not a Bachmann fan, but once the rules of the game are laid out you are a fool not to play it for the benefit of your constituents. That doesn't mean that you wouldn't welcome a change in the rules.

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10 Aug 2011 11:31 #12 by cydl

RenegadeCJ wrote: I'm asking LJ (and any other liberals/dems here) to actually say something positive their side is doing/plans to do to improve our country.


Well, that's not gonna happen. But in defense of the liberals the GOP certainly isn't doing anything to improve our country either.

The only thing either side of the aisle does is improve their own personal situations. The rest of us can go to hell as far as they're concerned. And that's the only bipartisan consensus you're ever gonna get out of DC.

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10 Aug 2011 12:05 #13 by Wayne Harrison
I would say health care reform is a very positive thing. Expanding health care for all Americans, not just those who can afford health insurance.

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10 Aug 2011 12:19 #14 by archer
Putting the breaks on tea party plans and Paul Ryan before they took us over the cliff.....that's a VERY positive thing.

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10 Aug 2011 14:14 #15 by RenegadeCJ

archer wrote: Putting the breaks on tea party plans and Paul Ryan before they took us over the cliff.....that's a VERY positive thing.


Putting the brakes on fiscal responsibility is a good thing? I know the press has done a good job about vilifying the tea party, but a large part of the platform is to make sure our kids aren't in debt so far that they can never escape. Why is that bad?

WayneH wrote: health care for all Americans, not just those who can afford health insurance.

Debatable I suppose, but thanks for at least supporting something the dems have done. I think the health care plan will be vastly more expensive than proposed, and make the care received worse for the avg. American.

Anything else the dems have done that was good?

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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10 Aug 2011 14:16 #16 by RenegadeCJ

cydl wrote:

RenegadeCJ wrote: I'm asking LJ (and any other liberals/dems here) to actually say something positive their side is doing/plans to do to improve our country.


Well, that's not gonna happen. But in defense of the liberals the GOP certainly isn't doing anything to improve our country either.

The only thing either side of the aisle does is improve their own personal situations. The rest of us can go to hell as far as they're concerned. And that's the only bipartisan consensus you're ever gonna get out of DC.


You are right...most of the reps have done nothing. Now, on the other hand, some of the up and coming conservatives are willing to make the tough choices which must be made to save the future generations. They (at least right now) are much more worried about their country than they are the next election. We just need more like that. Rubio, Christie, Ryan...all great examples.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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10 Aug 2011 15:09 #17 by LadyJazzer
Hmmm... So, now we're on Page-2 of responses bashing the OP, and STILL not one response about the hypocrisy and the fact that Bachmann is screaming about government handouts while slopping at the trough...

Deflectors on maximum!

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10 Aug 2011 16:15 #18 by mittra303

RenegadeCJ wrote: Putting the brakes on fiscal responsibility is a good thing? I know the press has done a good job about vilifying the tea party, but a large part of the platform is to make sure our kids aren't in debt so far that they can never escape. Why is that bad?


Fiscal responsibility = good thing
Fiscal "responsibility" by way of only cutting spending and not increasing revenue = bad thing

3% increase in income taxes to the very wealthy during Clinton Administration = budget surplus
Tax cuts for very wealthy = part of largest increase in deficit since founding of nation
Eliminating tax cuts for very wealthy = $70B/year towards deficit reduction

Does that help?

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10 Aug 2011 16:31 #19 by archer

RenegadeCJ wrote:

archer wrote: Putting the breaks on tea party plans and Paul Ryan before they took us over the cliff.....that's a VERY positive thing.


Putting the brakes on fiscal responsibility is a good thing? I know the press has done a good job about vilifying the tea party, but a large part of the platform is to make sure our kids aren't in debt so far that they can never escape. Why is that bad?


You spelled it wrong, they were putting the brakes on fiscal irresponsibility.

Just because you are cutting spending doesn't make you responsible. Putting together a balanced plan that cuts spending and raises revenue, and uses a responsible thought out approach, rather than taking a hatchet to the budget without regard to the consequences to our economy, is responsible.

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