Hang on....market in another freefall today

18 Aug 2011 08:33 #11 by AspenValley

neptunechimney wrote: I think as it becomes clearer that Obama is a one term President the markets will rebound.


LOL, I think that's called "irrational exuberance".

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18 Aug 2011 08:39 #12 by HEARTLESS
Reminiscent of Hope and Change, Yes We Can, etc.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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18 Aug 2011 08:49 #13 by AspenValley

HEARTLESS wrote: Reminiscent of Hope and Change, Yes We Can, etc.


Not at all. There is a big, big difference between a campaign slogan and an investment strategy.

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18 Aug 2011 08:49 #14 by chickaree
Well, we went shopping! Everyone gets hysterical when the market drops and real quiet when it goes back up again. Investors are the only ones making money in this economy. Wage earners are screwed.

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18 Aug 2011 09:21 #16 by LadyJazzer
Yes, and 4 days late the Dow-Jones gained back all it had lost... If you had looked it one day, and then 4 days later, you would never have known it happened... This is "uncertainty" from Europe that one of their banks might become another "Lehman Brothers"...

Shall I trot out my saved quotes from a couple of years ago when the Righties on here were saying that it couldn't POSSIBLY have been Bush's fault because "the president can't control the stock market"... I think that was the mantra right before the Crash of '08, the closure of Lehman, the TARP program that Bush signed, the 800,000 jobs a month that we were losing, the near destruction of the auto industry, the near bankruptcy of AIG from all of the credit-default-swaps, ad nauseum...

Feel free to continue your anti-Obama rant...

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18 Aug 2011 09:23 #17 by BearMtnHIB
Yes- this must be Bush's fault!

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18 Aug 2011 10:17 #18 by bailey bud
I don't really get these market panics.

Yeah - I see them happening - but wait a minute ---

Market valuation is based on the current and anticipated performance of a company.

I don't see much that alters current and anticipated performance.

What I see is panic selling - driven by a fear of factors that do not really impact stock performance. Let's take food prices, for example ---- exactly which market factors do you think will alter the long-term prospects of food purchases? (I don't see any).

The one main issue I see is confidence in the long-term value of the dollar. That said, currency valuation only comes into play when you think about international ownership of US Stock (which has risen dramatically over the past decade). I don't know where to find exact figures - but I seem to recall that historically, about 5 percent of asset ownership is foreign (today's figure is likely higher). More important, most of the foreign ownership focuses on fixed-income securities (the price of which has declined, recently).

Assume for a moment that we agree on the 5 percent figure. Now, remember that most of the recent in-flows of foreign funds come from countries with pegged currencies. In short - there isn't much risk for them - unless the invest in US assets - and spend funds on goods/services from non-pegged economies (the UAE would be in this category).

There's no fundamental reason why the US stock market should be in a precipitous decline.

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18 Aug 2011 10:20 #19 by Nobody that matters
Everyone panic!!!!!! Sell! Sell! Sell!

I need some good bargains to buy :biggrin:

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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18 Aug 2011 10:24 #20 by FredHayek
If the Euro zone falls apart, will that help American exporters? How invested are domestic banks into Europe's debt crisis?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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