Gov’t says wood is illegal if U.S. workers produce it

26 Aug 2011 18:27 #11 by Rockdoc
Talk about absurd. Clearly too many have too much free time to devote to such BS issues.

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26 Aug 2011 18:35 #12 by Martin Ent Inc
We can through the constitution in the toilet but god help us if we embarass another countries laws.
The People need to get balls or fold.

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27 Aug 2011 09:00 #13 by Blazer Bob
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27 Aug 2011 13:25 #14 by Blazer Bob
Gibson Competitor is Dem Donor; Uses Same Wood, Experienced No Federal Raids

One of Gibson’s leading competitors is C.F. Martin & Company. The C.E.O., Chris Martin IV, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the DNC over the past couple of elections (though, to be fair, he did donate a whopping $750 to Republican Congressmen in the 90s.) According to C.F. Martin’s catalog, several of their guitars contain “East Indian Rosewood.” In case you were wondering, that is the exact same wood in at least ten of Gibson’s guitars.


























http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmno ... uses-sam.. .

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23 Feb 2012 17:39 #15 by Blazer Bob
"Months After Federal Raid, Gibson Guitar Still Faces No Charges



Armed federal agents raided Gibson Guitar’s Nashville headquarters in August, creating a national outcry over the high-profile persecution. But today, six months after the raid, the Department of Justice has yet to file any charges against the company."

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23 Feb 2012 18:15 #16 by Martin Ent Inc

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23 Feb 2012 21:21 #17 by FredHayek

neptunechimney wrote: "Months After Federal Raid, Gibson Guitar Still Faces No Charges



Armed federal agents raided Gibson Guitar’s Nashville headquarters in August, creating a national outcry over the high-profile persecution. But today, six months after the raid, the Department of Justice has yet to file any charges against the company."

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/02/23/vid ... um=twitter


I saw something similar happen to another company, and the original charges were never proven so the feds just kept digging until they found something minor to charge them months later after the company had gone bankrupt from legal fees.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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23 Feb 2012 23:25 #18 by LadyJazzer
Wow.. This one is from September, 2011... You guys running out of outrages without recycling the same ol' b.s.?

Gibson Guitar becomes cause celebre for conservatives

Federal agents were targeting wood that may have been illegally imported under the Lacey Act. First passed in 1900 to curtail contraband trade in wildlife, the act was amended in 2008, with broad bipartisan and Bush administration support, to ban illegally logged wood products.

The act defines illegal logging as activity that breaks American law or the laws of the country where the wood is grown. In Gibson's case, the government asserts that the company repeatedly imported rosewood and ebony from India that, under Indian law, cannot be exported in its unfinished, sawn state. The pieces in question are wooden slats about 20 inches long, 3 inches wide and close to half an inch thick.

Gibson said that it had imported fingerboards — the smooth wood glued to the front of the guitar's neck to form the frets — from India for years without problems. The guitar builder said such wood fits with the company's tradition of using high-quality materials.

Juszkiewicz produced a September letter from the Indian government that permits the export of fingerboards. Industry and environmental experts contend that the seized wood had not been made into fingerboards and was still unfinished, making its export a violation of Indian law.

A group of environmentalists, some in the domestic forest industry, even a few guitar companies, are pushing back against the recent politicization of the Lacey Act. In a recent blog post, Bob Taylor, president of Taylor Guitars, wrote: "The cost isn't so much for us. It's not an unbearable added burden."


http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/27 ... r-20110928

Hey, twits, this isn't about "U.S. workers"... It's about INDIAN LAWS, which the U.S. must uphold...

<yawn>... Let me know when you have a NEW outrage-of-the-day, instead of the same old recycled bullsh*t....

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24 Feb 2012 00:22 #19 by Blazer Bob

LadyJazzer wrote: Wow.. This one is from September, 2011... You guys running out of outrages without recycling the same ol' b.s.?

Gibson Guitar becomes cause celebre for conservatives

Federal agents were targeting wood that may have been illegally imported under the Lacey Act. First passed in 1900 to curtail contraband trade in wildlife, the act was amended in 2008, with broad bipartisan and Bush administration support, to ban illegally logged wood products.

The act defines illegal logging as activity that breaks American law or the laws of the country where the wood is grown. In Gibson's case, the government asserts that the company repeatedly imported rosewood and ebony from India that, under Indian law, cannot be exported in its unfinished, sawn state. The pieces in question are wooden slats about 20 inches long, 3 inches wide and close to half an inch thick.



Gibson said that it had imported fingerboards — the smooth wood glued to the front of the guitar's neck to form the frets — from India for years without problems. The guitar builder said such wood fits with the company's tradition of using high-quality materials.

Juszkiewicz produced a September letter from the Indian government that permits the export of fingerboards. Industry and environmental experts contend that the seized wood had not been made into fingerboards and was still unfinished, making its export a violation of Indian law.

A group of environmentalists, some in the domestic forest industry, even a few guitar companies, are pushing back against the recent politicization of the Lacey Act. In a recent blog post, Bob Taylor, president of Taylor Guitars, wrote: "The cost isn't so much for us. It's not an unbearable added burden."


http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/27 ... r-20110928

Hey, twits, this isn't about "U.S. workers"... It's about INDIAN LAWS, which the U.S. must uphold...

<yawn>... Let me know when you have a NEW outrage-of-the-day, instead of the same old recycled bullsh*t....


Wow. you usually spin better than that. You article is from last
September, there are still no charges filed. Hello? Fill in the latest deflection or they do it too from the queen of deflection and they do it too , LJ. Carry on, fill in here______________, you make conservatives look good.

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24 Feb 2012 05:40 #20 by FredHayek
This isn't about Indian laws. This is selective enforcement of Indian laws for political reasons.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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