Maxine Waters wants a trillion dollars - YouTube

06 Sep 2011 09:59 #11 by Rick

Kate wrote: It's just that I cannot remember Outdoor ever posting an news article. I prefer to get my information from written articles, as it allows me to read much faster than a person can talk. I can skip ahead, search and re-read without having to wait for a video to get to the point.

In addition, the written word usually is more thought out than ramblings of someone on a video.

What have you contributed to this board other than parroting LJ and archer with snarky little comments? Just sayin :biggrin:

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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06 Sep 2011 10:00 #12 by outdoor338
yes, wayne you are stupid and cannot click on the link...your words not mine :biggrin:

Kate, I have posted plenty of articles, maybe you should read them, instead of acting stupid like wayne..

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06 Sep 2011 10:10 #13 by Kate

CriticalBill wrote:

Kate wrote: It's just that I cannot remember Outdoor ever posting an news article. I prefer to get my information from written articles, as it allows me to read much faster than a person can talk. I can skip ahead, search and re-read without having to wait for a video to get to the point.

In addition, the written word usually is more thought out than ramblings of someone on a video.

What have you contributed to this board other than parroting LJ and archer with snarky little comments? Just sayin :biggrin:


If you honestly want an answer to your question, you can certainly search my posts and read the discussions I've had. However, since you simplistically think I parrot archer and LJ, I am certain that you won't do that.

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06 Sep 2011 10:17 #14 by Wayne Harrison
I have to agree with Waters. We need a jobs program, not unlike the Civilian Conservation Corps, to put jobless people back to work. Instead of paying unemployment, pay them wages for work. Simply giving more tax breaks to the people who got us here in the first place is unproductive.

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06 Sep 2011 10:19 #15 by LadyJazzer
Yeah, we've already busted the "trickle-down" myth. A $Trillion for infrastructure repair and paying jobs to inject money into the economy from WORKING people is a cheap price. Think how many unnecessary wars you could start with the savings!?!?

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06 Sep 2011 11:52 #16 by PrintSmith

Science Chic wrote: I like the idea in this article - get everyone earning a living instead of collecting unemployment checks, fix our decaying infrastructure at the same time without having to go through politically-driven, special interest project approvals, and put money back into our own economy. If you agree, write your representatives and tell them to advocate for this plan.

http://www.truth-out.org/put-15-million ... 1311271379
Put 15 Million Back to Work Fixing $2.2 Trillion in Infrastructure: the Works Progress Administration

There's only one problem with that idea SC. When FDR enacted his alphabet soup of new deal programs he doubled the current spending of the federal government, from 5% to 10%. We're already at 25% these days - mostly paying folks to not do the work that these programs envisioned. Now, if you are talking about putting all those 99 weekers and other folks on federal charity to work earning their current charity stipend instead of simply having it handed to them, I think I could support that - but I have the distinct feeling we aren't talking about putting those currently receiving federal subsidies to work performing manual labor for their current subsidies, are we.

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06 Sep 2011 11:56 #17 by LadyJazzer
Why, yes...We are....

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06 Sep 2011 12:05 #18 by ScienceChic

LadyJazzer wrote: Why, yes...We are....

Thanks LJ! :thumbsup:

PrintSmith wrote:

Science Chic wrote: I like the idea in this article - get everyone earning a living instead of collecting unemployment checks, fix our decaying infrastructure at the same time without having to go through politically-driven, special interest project approvals, and put money back into our own economy. If you agree, write your representatives and tell them to advocate for this plan.

http://www.truth-out.org/put-15-million ... 1311271379
Put 15 Million Back to Work Fixing $2.2 Trillion in Infrastructure: the Works Progress Administration

There's only one problem with that idea SC. When FDR enacted his alphabet soup of new deal programs he doubled the current spending of the federal government, from 5% to 10%. We're already at 25% these days - mostly paying folks to not do the work that these programs envisioned. Now, if you are talking about putting all those 99 weekers and other folks on federal charity to work earning their current charity stipend instead of simply having it handed to them, I think I could support that - but I have the distinct feeling we aren't talking about putting those currently receiving federal subsidies to work performing manual labor for their current subsidies, are we.

Did you not read my post? Yes, us liberals support personal and fiscal responsibility, and hard-work, much as y'all like to assume that we don't. :biggrin:

Science Chic wrote: I like the idea in this article - get everyone earning a living instead of collecting unemployment checks


Now, if you read the article, it goes over how they scrutinized every penny for the WPA, how lobbyists influence was taken out of the picture, how it could be funded by ending our subsidizing of foreign infrastructure, and how it takes pork funding/political jostling/bureaucratic red tape out of the equation. There's nothing we don't agree on - so let's make this a reality by deluging our representatives with emails and letters to support this idea; aka: get off yer arses and DO something! :biggrin:

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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06 Sep 2011 12:09 #19 by chickaree
It would give an opportunity for many to learn new skills I suppose. The question is would an unemployed Systems Administrator be willing to retrain to pave roads or engineer bridges?

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06 Sep 2011 12:13 #20 by RenegadeCJ

Science Chic wrote: You mean like this that I posted last month? It's not that the libs aren't listening, because some have been saying the same thing for over a month now (and notice the the conservatives aren't exactly pushing for any jobs plans either)...neither party in power cares about us. Period. Isn't a partisan thing at all.

I like the idea in this article - get everyone earning a living instead of collecting unemployment checks, fix our decaying infrastructure at the same time without having to go through politically-driven, special interest project approvals, and put money back into our own economy. If you agree, write your representatives and tell them to advocate for this plan.

http://www.truth-out.org/put-15-million ... 1311271379
Put 15 Million Back to Work Fixing $2.2 Trillion in Infrastructure: the Works Progress Administration
Saturday 23 July 2011
by: Barbara G. Ellis Ph.D.


Not a bad idea. I've always advocated for people working-doing SOMETHING to get unemployment or benefits, if they are able. The problem is, we don't have people willing to do hard labor to do all these works projects. Could they? You bet, but would they....that is another problem. We are a country of soft hands. Look at the guy paying Americans to pick produce. He was paying $10.50/hr or so...rarely did people last more than a day or 2. Unemployment is too easy. Now, if the plan was not a works program that was optional, but rather you were required to work or no benefits, I believe I could get on board with that.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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