Maybe they'll go back to their AHWB echo-chamber and get a chorus of "Haaarumphs" out of each other? I guess after awhile they get tired of just agreeing with each other...
I know how politics got dragged into this, but this thread has NOTHING to do with socialist, liberal, conservative or any other political position. I sure would be nice to just once have a thread that does not degenerate into that direction. All of us already know your positions. Thanks.
Now, back to McDonalds. @ AspenValley most of us make some significant mistakes during our life. My ex father-in-law was asked for 100 dollar investment by Bill Gates years ago, but decided it was not worth the risk I had no idea, but am not surprised, so many benefitted so greatly from McDonalds. A good story.
Yeah-it's ablution obesity. The assault on the toysin the happy meals, the push to get rid of of good old Ronald, mandating calorie counts and nutritional info be posted instead of simply available, and need it be mentioned about being used as the poster child for wage discussions? All instances of unneeded, unwanted, and unnecessary intervention into the markstplace because the "progressives" want to take care of you, which you clearly are incapable of doing without their help, and do so by expanding further the grasp that government has on the smallest details of your everyday life.
PrintSmith wrote: do so by expanding further the grasp that government has on the smallest details of your everyday life.
Maybe it's in response to the grasp that the advertising industry has on the smallest details of your everyday life?
It's not just a matter of turning off the television, either. We didn't even have one in our house when my son was little, yet he could recognize the Golden Arches by age two.
I am not in favor of having the government be the food police, but that doesn't mean I'm not concerned about the creeping presence of corporate propaganda in the form of advertising so insidious that even toddlers are influenced by it.
PrintSmith wrote: Yeah-it's ablution obesity. The assault on the toysin the happy meals, the push to get rid of of good old Ronald, mandating calorie counts and nutritional info be posted instead of simply available, and need it be mentioned about being used as the poster child for wage discussions? All instances of unneeded, unwanted, and unnecessary intervention into the markstplace because the "progressives" want to take care of you, which you clearly are incapable of doing without their help, and do so by expanding further the grasp that government has on the smallest details of your everyday life.
Yet the same crowd trying to destroy McDonalds....support the unhealthy lifestyle of homosexuality, smoking of pot, and killing of babies....why can't they stay out of the kitchens of Americans?
I want to tie a couple of fears I have concerning the future. Based on the logic of spreading the wealth and the richer paying their FAIR SHARE, in an interesting natural trend from that control by government, can you picture going to McDonalds, them asking how much you own or how rich you are would dictate the price you would be asked to pay for burger. Is that fair? Is that the kind of system you foresee?
Nmysys wrote: I want to tie a couple of fears I have concerning the future. Based on the logic of spreading the wealth and the richer paying their FAIR SHARE, in an interesting natural trend from that control by government, can you picture going to McDonalds, them asking how much you own or how rich you are would dictate the price you would be asked to pay for burger. Is that fair? Is that the kind of system you foresee?
It's nothing like that.. :rofl Were talking about taxes, not Mcdonalds? WTF?
Lets talk about what were talkin about....... ok grandpaw?
PrintSmith wrote: do so by expanding further the grasp that government has on the smallest details of your everyday life.
Maybe it's in response to the grasp that the advertising industry has on the smallest details of your everyday life?
The largest problem, among the many that this response contains, is that there is a major difference between an advertising industry trying to entice you into voluntary action and a government requiring involuntary action in that smallest detail of your existence.
AspenValley wrote: It's not just a matter of turning off the television, either. We didn't even have one in our house when my son was little, yet he could recognize the Golden Arches by age two.
I am not in favor of having the government be the food police, but that doesn't mean I'm not concerned about the creeping presence of corporate propaganda in the form of advertising so insidious that even toddlers are influenced by it.
And this right here tells us exactly why the Statist seeks to have the government control the minute details of your everyday life. Government help us, we can't influence the thinking of a toddler without your help to combat the evils of corporate branding. We are incapable of self restraint and self determination and as such we need for you to step in to protect us lest the advertising industry pollute our minds with the notion that the food served at McDonald's is healthy and nutritious everyday fare for our two year old children.
PrintSmith wrote: do so by expanding further the grasp that government has on the smallest details of your everyday life.
Maybe it's in response to the grasp that the advertising industry has on the smallest details of your everyday life?
The largest problem, among the many that this response contains, is that there is a major difference between an advertising industry trying to entice you into voluntary action and a government requiring involuntary action in that smallest detail of your existence.
AspenValley wrote: It's not just a matter of turning off the television, either. We didn't even have one in our house when my son was little, yet he could recognize the Golden Arches by age two.
I am not in favor of having the government be the food police, but that doesn't mean I'm not concerned about the creeping presence of corporate propaganda in the form of advertising so insidious that even toddlers are influenced by it.
And this right here tells us exactly why the Statist seeks to have the government control the minute details of your everyday life. Government help us, we can't influence the thinking of a toddler without your help to combat the evils of corporate branding. We are incapable of self restraint and self determination and as such we need for you to step in to protect us lest the advertising industry pollute our minds with the notion that the food served at McDonald's is healthy and nutritious everyday fare for our two year old children.
You know, this is one of the reasons it gets so tiresome trying to have a conversation here. Did you read my post? It's right there in the part you quoted. "I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE GOVERNMENT BE THE FOOD POLICE".
But you can understand why it might be necessary to have the government force a company to eliminate the free toy from the menu item specifically designed for children, force it to include apple slices in lieu of french fries and force it to post the nutritional data of the menu items to counter the insidious nature of advertising aimed at getting someone who has made the free and voluntary choice to consume fast food fare to choose one brand over another.
No, you don't really want the government to become the food police, but you can understand why it might have to add that role to the growing list of what it is supposed to do to provide for the individual welfare of each and every citizen. That, to me at least, is a difference without a distinction.
I had no idea, but am not surprised, so many benefitted so greatly from McDonalds. A good story. 
