How Automatic License Plate Recognition Tracks Your Steps

03 Oct 2011 11:49 #11 by The Boss
1. Has anyone who is weird-ed out by this called their representative?

2. If you think you will not be tracked the same way via your person and not your vehicle within 5 years, you are kidding yourself. Simple two step process, readable IDs (already used some places) combined with a simple rule that you must carry your ID at all times when out of your home (already used in some places). Let's not even talk about the mandated implant, cause you know it is coming in the not too distant future. But the funky part, just like the cameras in your living room and bedrooms (which is on the computer you are using and your next one, tape on the primary lens or not, don't worry there is a backup hidden)...is that they wont even have to mandate it, you will willingly have it implanted...it is called the Iphone 8 f***ers, you will pay for it and rush to get it and huffpost will report excessively on its color, even though you wont see its color...your kids will beg for it (just make sure to disable the auto-orgasm feature for those under 18, too late, they hacked it).

3. I still find it ironic that in the same 5 years, you will be able to buy an app. that allows you to track every police officer the same way. The end result is that even undercover cars and officers that were previously only exposed here and there, will be exposed permanently, this will result in increased costs of law enforcement to maintain their undercover status, oh wait, never mind, I forgot about the insect sized surveillance drones that look like flies, that are already sitting on your walls watching you read this. The good old days were over as soon as everyone over reacted to 9-11, actually a few years before when everyone under reacted to technology policy and excessive policing. The cool thing is that you will be able to better track their expenditures, the bad thing is you will not have any say anyway.

4. You haven't done anything wrong, right, so what's the big deal? It will all come true and more that you cannot even imagine. You will be paying a monthly fee to not have the exact list of porn you looked at in 2003 posted to everyone....and another monthly fee to another company because they also have the same info. And then 10 more for all the other years and other secrets and then all this on top of the day in day out fines for all of your violations which used to be like white lies (speeding on 285), but we all know are serious crimes and thus must be punished. This is just the tippy tip tip of the rain drop to form snow that will fall on an ice sheet and someday break off and be seen on the tippy tip of a floating ice burg. I say enjoy the days when they only track your car, these will be the good old days...in only a matter of minutes when everything changes. Everyone who cares can start speaking up all they want, it will not matter. It will get really cool when this is combined with all kinds of incentives to rat on your neighbor. Oh the fun that is starting to ensue.

Oh, wait, there's knock on the door, could it be them....they know what I am doing....Ahhhhhh.

Just the beginning.

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03 Oct 2011 11:52 #12 by FredHayek
Back east there is a tradition/law that hunters have to mount their license on the back of their vest/coats so that the game warden has a license plate to track them.

How soon before Americans have to wear individual license plates on their back. We already have facial recognition software in use, why not?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Oct 2011 12:02 #13 by The Boss
"can you give me a good reason for a lic. plate on a car that would not justify one on your back?"

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03 Oct 2011 12:11 #14 by Nobody that matters

posteryoyo wrote: "can you give me a good reason for a lic. plate on a car that would not justify one on your back?"

Cars are property and need to be traceable to the owner. My back doesn't go anywhere without me, so tracing it back to me is as easy as tapping it to get my attention.

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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03 Oct 2011 12:24 - 03 Oct 2011 12:36 #15 by The Boss
VIN for that. Think of what it stands for. You have your VIN, then your reg #, then your lic plate number, then your title number and many a loan number. Do we really need more than one? Does it have to posted on the vehicle for any reason other than when you eventually decide to break the law?

Lic Plate is for when you break the law and to charge you a fee in addition to your reg fee, and other fees, cause it has a diff name. Why don't bikes have plates...or children, imagine you send yours into the herd to school every day, seems they would be more important to find when they are done grazing for education.

Some states don't require tags for some trailers.

Note in the video they are looking for obvious criminals, is that not what the lic plate has always been about? Making it so you cannot run away. I mean if someone who otherwise has done nothing else wrong, puts a metal sheet on their with unregistered numbers or no sheet metal at all, that they would be a pretty suspicious person. Seems like the ID of the person would be even more important than the car and that the person not willing to wear their ID on their shirt would also be a little suspicious...or could be in a few years.

Perhaps something simple like a number tattoo on your arm? Would that really hurt anyone decent? Would only negatively effect criminals and they don't deserve the air they breath, once accused. They keep their rights by having the right to prove they were not guilty, otherwise they are. Seems like a pretty good system, no? Back this up with some good random stops and now parking lot scanning, we will be wicked safe. Glad all those things that ruined everyone's life only a few years ago will be history. Pesky privacy for those not otherwise known as criminal, the key phrase is "not otherwise known"...now we will know!

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03 Oct 2011 12:34 #16 by Nobody that matters

posteryoyo wrote: Perhaps something simple like a number tattoo on your arm? Would really hurt anyone. Would only negatively effect criminals.


I'd rather have a UPC symbol on my butt so I have an excuse to moon anyone wanting my ID. :biggrin:

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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03 Oct 2011 12:41 #17 by The Boss
Funny, you think you will get to choose.

If you can, perhaps the topside of your middle finger would be better, a little easier to use.

You will be forced to have visible, scanable, or recognizable facial exposure in public...already done in banks and in france, etc. etc.

I am just not feeling safer walking around as a result of all this tracking stuff, but I did not feel at any risk before or now. Not sure what we are gaining....and I thought crime was lower cause they allowed abortions in the 70s (allowing for more children that were raised and wanted), not all this tracking.

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03 Oct 2011 13:27 #18 by RCCL
If you haven't read "Little Brother" by Cory Doctorow, this would be a great time to do so. He credits 1984 with giving him a great deal of ideas and material, and while a little "techy", it's a perfect book for a world in which we're starting to track cars.

I read it, cover to cover, in a single day. I couldn't put it down.

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05 Oct 2011 03:26 #19 by Rockdoc
I'll need to take a look at this book.

Like so many processes that usurp one's freedom and privacy, it is like water. It begins as a trickle and soon becomes a torrent that gouges deeply and indiscriminately into what is left of our freedom and privacy. Many may laugh and say we are over reacting, but given the ease with which technology is doing this is the engine behind it all. For every crime, or help with a crime that something like Google surveillance contributes to, it violates a thousand or ten thousand others. You and I know this is not going to stop, no matter what the public outcry will be. Those who have access to making the laws and determining how to spend your taxes will dictate under some seemingly harmless guise increasingly greater security. Heck, write something negative about a political figure, and the FBI or CIA is at your door. I feel sorry for our kids who will have to deal with the increased loss of freedom and privacy. I doubt it will make a whole lot of difference to me over what time I have left on this world. All I know is that it's most important to take advantage of what freedom and privacy that remains.

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05 Oct 2011 06:49 #20 by Nobody that matters

posteryoyo wrote: Funny, you think you will get to choose.


"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."
--Robert Heinlein

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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