CriticalBill wrote: So what are your answers to questions #1 and #2?
How can I possibly answer that when your analogy doesn't bear any resemblance to the issue, you talk of two parent's who differ on parenting styles, but each of them is consistent in how they treat BOTH kids. A better analogy, to me, would be two white parents who have an adopted white child and an adopted black child. The mom wants to send both to a private school, the dad thinks that the white kid should go but the black kid will go to the public school down the street......both kids will be educated. Mom wants to give each kid their own room, dad says fine, give the big bedroom to the white kid, we will let the black kid have this closet with a bed in it...... both kids have a room, .........Mom wants to take both kids on vacation, dad says the white kid goes with us to Europe, well send the black kid to summer camp while we're gone. Both kids get a vacation That is how I see the mom, a democrat, as looking at the black population, and how I see the dad, Republican, as historically treating the black population. Which one do you think the black kid is going to favor, i.e. vote for?
No resemblance to the issue? Come on archer it's easy to see...if one family raises their kids to be dependant and another family raises their kids to be self sufficient, there will be a big difference in how those kids succeed in life and who they are more likely to vote for.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Rockdoc Franz wrote: What an unrealistic scenario. First of all, when parents adopt, it is not a casual process. Given my son has adopted and seeing how he treats his kids, they are seen as their vary own. Hence, given available resources for school, vacation, etc. there would be equal treatment. It is of major importance to him. Now if age differences exist and family finances change and thereby mitigate a parent's ability to give what they did before it is a completely different situation. I don't see equal treatment as a viable route for any parent under negative financial constraints, conversely, if improved the younger sibling may get more spoiled. I can see it happening when age differences exist and in that case the younger one black or white will get the short or better end of the bargain. It happens in real families all the time. But, you wanted to make a point you thought realistic... in whose home?
You're reading too much into an analogy, I posted it to counter the analogy CB posted that to me does not at all reflect the difference between the two political parties on how blacks have been historically treated, it's a difference of opinion Rockdoc
......but it isn't as unrealistic as you think.....I have had friends from families were one kid is indeed the favored sibling and the other gets "equal" advantages that when looked at closely, are not so equal. That is exactly how I see the Republicans history with black voters, a lot of lip service to equality, but their actions tell a different story. Attacking the analogy is a cop out, look at the issue and what my analogy is saying, not if the analogy is true or not......I don't see CB's analogy true either, but I certainly understood what he was trying to say, I just didn't agree with him.
CriticalBill wrote: So what are your answers to questions #1 and #2?
How can I possibly answer that when your analogy doesn't bear any resemblance to the issue, you talk of two parent's who differ on parenting styles, but each of them is consistent in how they treat BOTH kids. A better analogy, to me, would be two white parents who have an adopted white child and an adopted black child. The mom wants to send both to a private school, the dad thinks that the white kid should go but the black kid will go to the public school down the street......both kids will be educated. Mom wants to give each kid their own room, dad says fine, give the big bedroom to the white kid, we will let the black kid have this closet with a bed in it...... both kids have a room, .........Mom wants to take both kids on vacation, dad says the white kid goes with us to Europe, well send the black kid to summer camp while we're gone. Both kids get a vacation That is how I see the mom, a democrat, as looking at the black population, and how I see the dad, Republican, as historically treating the black population. Which one do you think the black kid is going to favor, i.e. vote for?
No resemblance to the issue? Come on archer it's easy to see...if one family raises their kids to be dependant and another family raises their kids to be self sufficient, there will be a big difference in how those kids succeed in life and who they are more likely to vote for.
I just don't see the two political parties the way you do......I see the social programs promoted by Democrats not as creating dependency but as fostering charity for those who need it and promoting the dignity of each and every citizen, not just the favored ones. Keeping with the thread topic, I think blacks see the Democrats as more in tune with their struggle for equal rights and opportunities, and the GOP favoring the good-ol-boy network and favoring the wealthy and the corporations. I'm not commenting on the truth of those perceptions, just what my opinion is of why blacks tend to vote for democrats.
It's like sitting down for lunch with a group of people and you notice one of them doesn't have any lunch, so you offer to share because it's the decent thing to do.
The way I understand the Republican psyche, they wouldn't share but would tell him where he can find a job.
It's like sitting down for lunch with a group of people and you notice one of them doesn't have any lunch, so you offer to share because it's the decent thing to do.
The way I understand the Republican psyche, they wouldn't share but would tell him where he can find a job.
They wouldn't tell him where to get a job, just "Get a job. Oh, and take a shower."
archer wrote: There aren't any blacks today who were alive back in the 1800's, they base their vote on what they see from the Democratic Party today, not over 100 years ago......and they may well ask themselves, what has the Republican Party done for me lately? Not much, that's for sure.
This post expressly highlights the problem this nation has, a belief that the primary purpose of the federal government lies in doing something for you as an individual.
Conservative Voice wrote: It's like sitting down for lunch with a group of people and you notice one of them doesn't have any lunch, so you offer to share because it's the decent thing to do.
The way it really works under a scenario such as this would be the Republican would share their lunch with the person and the Democrat would tell everyone else they had to chip in to help him pay for that lunch.
And a new assault on Cain came out today when O'Donnell attacked him for not doing enough during the civil rights era. (Rush Limbaugh Show/O'Donnell's show, MSNBC?)
Silly him, going to high school and college instead of getting beaten up and firehosed.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Conservative Voice wrote: It's like sitting down for lunch with a group of people and you notice one of them doesn't have any lunch, so you offer to share because it's the decent thing to do.
The way it really works under a scenario such as this would be the Republican would share their lunch with the person and the Democrat would tell everyone else they had to chip in to help him pay for that lunch.
Oh my bad. I forgot Republicans are well known for sharing..... rofllol
Conservative Voice wrote: It's like sitting down for lunch with a group of people and you notice one of them doesn't have any lunch, so you offer to share because it's the decent thing to do.
The way it really works under a scenario such as this would be the Republican would share their lunch with the person and the Democrat would tell everyone else they had to chip in to help him pay for that lunch.
Oh my bad. I forgot Republicans are well known for sharing..... rofllol
Thanks for acknowledging our charity giving. Conservatives donate more of their wealth than liberals. Facts are stubborn things.
