How stupid are we?

07 Oct 2011 19:18 #21 by Wayne Harrison
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But she did challenge him, even at the convention.

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07 Oct 2011 19:22 #22 by Rick
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Conservative Voice wrote: But she did challenge him, even at the convention.

I think Obama paid off Clinton to not challenge him in 2012 by making her Sec. of State. Evidence proves that right?


The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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07 Oct 2011 19:24 #23 by Wayne Harrison
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Oops. My bad. She said she was tired of politics. Also I think she knows she wouldn't have a prayer of getting elected.

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07 Oct 2011 19:28 #24 by chickaree
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CivilBill wrote:

chickaree wrote: Obviously, but an opinion based on the evidence.

The only credible evidence would some recorded conversation, email, or to be able to read Christies mind and prove that.

I think Obama paid off Clinton to not challenge him in 2012 by making her Sec. of State. Evidence proves that right?


I'd say so. Also the fact that she would lose access to the big money donors by challenging a sitting president of her party. You just don't seem to get it. It's not what the voters want. The power players know that we'll obediently vote for the candidate of our party that they supply because the other guy is sooo much worse.

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07 Oct 2011 19:30 #25 by Rick
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Conservative Voice wrote: Oops. My bad. She said she was tired of politics. Also I think she knows she wouldn't have a prayer of getting elected.

You seriously believe that if Hillary beat Obama in the primary, that she couldn't beat any Republican for President? The Dems would have an even bigger wave of excitement for the second time and would draw a ton of Indies that Obama has forever lost.
Being a media guy yourself, I'm surprised you don't know that Hillary was currently rated as the most admired politician (or liked..can't remember exactly)

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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07 Oct 2011 19:31 #26 by Rick
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chickaree wrote:

CivilBill wrote:

chickaree wrote: Obviously, but an opinion based on the evidence.

The only credible evidence would some recorded conversation, email, or to be able to read Christies mind and prove that.

I think Obama paid off Clinton to not challenge him in 2012 by making her Sec. of State. Evidence proves that right?


I'd say so. Also the fact that she would lose access to the big money donors by challenging a sitting president of her party. You just don't seem to get it. It's not what the voters want. The power players know that we'll obediently vote for the candidate of our party that they supply because the other guy is sooo much worse.

It was an analogy...I didn't make that my actual opinion.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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07 Oct 2011 19:35 #27 by Wayne Harrison
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Yes, I seriously believe Hillary is not electable. She's got too much liberal baggage. Remember Hillarycare?

Being admired by the general populous and getting votes from actual voters are two different animals.

I don't think Obama is re-electable, unless the economy dramatically changes or the Tea Party forces the Republican Party to nominate a nutty candidate (it's happened before).

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07 Oct 2011 19:52 #28 by Rick
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Conservative Voice wrote: Yes, I seriously believe Hillary is not electable. She's got too much liberal baggage. Remember Hillarycare?

Being admired by the general populous and getting votes from actual voters are two different animals.

I don't think Obama is re-electable, unless the economy dramatically changes or the Tea Party forces the Republican Party to nominate a nutty candidate (it's happened before).

Hillarycare was not a negative for Dems first of all and it is long lost in the dust bin. Obama excited the country because he was the first black candidate that wasn't an obvious fool like Jesse J, he was young and attractive, and he knows how to talk (or read well out loud).

Hillary would satisfy the women of all parties (except conservatives) who would want to see the country FINALLY elect a woman...and a more experienced one at that.

And you seem to have thrown in the towel too soon on Obama...there's still 13 months of possible Hope and Change.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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07 Oct 2011 20:59 #29 by chickaree
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You really think women would slavishly vote for anyone that sports a uterus regardless of party? You don't know women very well then. I don't know any conservative women who' vote for "it takes a village" Hillary.

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07 Oct 2011 21:27 #30 by Hoot Owl
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chickaree wrote: You really think women would slavishly vote for anyone that sports a uterus regardless of party? You don't know women very well then. I don't know any conservative women who' vote for "it takes a village" Hillary.


He did exclude conservatie women. Why doesnt someone just nominate Oprah, Black with a Uterus, and throws fab parties. That should get the female vote, the black vote, and the Hollywood big campaign contributors vote. We need more AH-HA moments and crying in the Whitehouse. :biggrin:

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