Rick Perry's first part of his plan that he will announce

archer wrote:

The Viking wrote:

archer wrote: In other words....he will try to convince the American people that he is actually smarter than he appears......that could be a hard sell, because eventually he will have to debate again, and he will be questioned by those who are probably smarter and better prepared than he is. Talk shows are so easy......debates, not so much. He is what he is Viking, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear......(one of my mom's favorite sayings)

Do we really want another candidate like Sarah, where every appearance has to be carefully orchestrated, lest they screw up by being themselves?

So you are saying that we need to elect the best debater? That is what we did in 2008 and look where that got us. We need to elect the person with the best record for creating jobs, the best ideas, the best plans, and will put Americans first and not their own ideals that even their own party doesn't agree with.

That isn't exactly what I said, though I can understand how you came to that conclusion from what I posted. The debates can give us some insight into the character of the candidate, and what their positions on the issues are....not a perfect means of doing so, but probably the best we have. Anyone can use a script and sound like they know what they are talking about......you have pointed that out often enough with Obama and the teleprompter, but in a debate they have to explain their positions in their own words, with pressure from their fellow candidates and a moderator (not to mention millions watching). I'm not alone in thinking that Perry did not present himself well, and he some difficulty explaining his decisions.....his rationalizations didn't make sense. We have already had a Texas cowboy who can't think on his feet and does things because, well because it seemed like the right thing to do at the time, and in retrospect it wasn't. Perry also drew fire for being not too knowledgeable about foreign and national issues, economics, and how the federal government works.......his writers will try to fix that, but it may be too late. I don't think Cain is any better.......I really don't know about Romney, maybe he is just another Obama who speaks well and gives a good presentation but doesn't have the substance to back it up.

Right now, like it or not, Obama has the most experience of the whole lot of them, because he has been president....I think that is how Bush got elected for a second term.

Actually the FIRST thing we need to look at is each candidates record NOT what they say. Obama proved that. He broke so many of his promises to both parties. You HAVE to go by their record, successes and history. And the job creations which Perry blows away Obama on.

And Perry has 10 years experience as CEO of the second largest economy in the US. AND he has 15 years more experience before that as Ag Commissioner and a few other positions. And he was part of BOTH parties. Obama has 2 1/2 years of golf, parties and fund raising.

The Viking wrote: Actually the FIRST thing we need to look at is each candidates record NOT what they say. Obama proved that. He broke so many of his promises to both parties. You HAVE to go by their record, successes and history. And the job creations which Perry blows away Obama on.

And Perry has 10 years experience as CEO of the second largest economy in the US. AND he has 15 years more experience before that as Ag Commissioner and a few other positions. And he was part of BOTH parties. Obama has 2 1/2 years of golf, parties and fund raising.

Really Viking.....we shouldn't listen to what a candidate says? A lot of what Rick Perry says is about what he has done, and not everyone is on board the Perry train like you are. The gains he has made in Texas with job creation (were they really created with federal stimulus money? I don't know), have been offset by the terrible condition of the Texas debt. I also dislike his handling of the vaccine debacle, and his offering in-state tuition to illegals, when citizens of this country that might wish to go to Texas colleges must pay out-of-state tuition.

The fact that he was part of both parties is a minus, not a plus to me. I have never liked when a politician switches party for political gain, they may also change what they say and the platform they run on, but all it says to me is this is a politician who works for whatever party will get him elected, not for his constituents, or his own ideals. It tells me the man can be bought.

You may call Obama's presidency "2 1/2 years of golf, parties and fund raising." but I think you know that is not true. If it were, the Republicans wouldn't be frothing at the mouth at his very existence in the White House. You may not like what he has done, but he has done a lot.......and you all remind us every day how much you hate what he has accomplished. It is experience, and many voters will stick with the one who has it over a candidate who scares them about what he/she might do. Again, reference Bush.

Perry, finally coming up with a plan this late in the game (actually, I'm positive his advisers came up with the "plan") reminds me of Mr. Carlson on WKRP in Cincinnati running for city council.

He was told if he is asked a question he couldn't answer to say, "We are coming up with a plan to address that problem."

The Reason Perry didn't discuss the plan at the debate is he didn't know what plan his advisers were putting together for his campaign.

Conservation Voice wrote: Perry, finally coming up with a plan this late in the game (actually, I'm positive his advisers came up with the "plan") reminds me of Mr. Carlson on WKRP in Cincinnati running for city council.

He was told if he is asked a question he couldn't answer to say, "We are coming up with a plan to address that problem."

The Reason Perry didn't discuss the plan at the debate is he didn't know what plan his advisers were putting together for his campaign.

And Cains 999 plan was thought up by an advisor. And Romney's 59 point plan was also made through many advisors. Of course people use economic advisors. What is your point? OH yeah that's right you are use to obama who throws crap out without asking anyone and even the Dems don't like it. Makes sense. :bash

He kept calling it "my plan" is my point. If he had been working on it himself, he would have known some of the key points of the plan and could have said, "Well, one of the points is... so and so... but I'll have more details in my announcement." Instead, it was apparent he had no idea what was in it.

My problem with Perry is his mandating the HPV vaccine for all girls entering sixth grade and the implications of a kickback from the pharmaceutical company and slamming government payments at the same time he's taking them.

I also don't like his stance on gay rights or on immigration. As Tom Tancredo said:

"Perry’s only true conservative positions on borders involve calling for an end to sanctuary cities and signing a voter ID law. While I support these measures, they don’t make up for the rest of his positions on immigration. Even a broken clock is right twice a day."

I thought government does not create a single job...

Soulshiner wrote: I thought government does not create a single job...

It does, as long as the tax payers fund them.

How creative editing distorts the truth in Perry video

Posted online Oct. 10, 2011, by Gov. Rick Perry's campaign, a video linking the health care plan that Mitt Romney signed into law as governor of Massachusetts in 2006 with the one that President Barack Obama signed in 2010 made a splash in part because of its film-quality production elements.

The 59-second video, which had been viewed more than 180,000 times on YouTube as of Oct. 16, mixes graphics, photos and TV news clips to paint Romney, a Perry rival for the Republican presidential nomination, as undeserving of conservatives' support because of his stance on health care.

PolitiFact National checked the claim that "RomneyCare" had "killed 18,000 jobs" and found it based on a single study by a conservative group. That earned a Mostly False on the Truth-O-Meter.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... rry-video/