Religious School Vouchers in JeffCo?...I don't think so....

28 Oct 2011 12:02 #31 by navycpo7

Nobody that matters wrote:

navycpo7 wrote: As I do not live in Jeffco, I do not vote there.. But my question is why should the taxpayer have to support something that use to be the responsibility of the parents. If you wanted your kids to go to a private school then they paid for it. It was thier choice so they had to pay. Why should others pay for the choices made by parents that what to send thier kids to private schools. Everyone talks about to much government involved in ours lives what makes this different. If this was in my county I would vote against it. We deal with the choices we make every day. this is no different


Vouchers are not up for discussion in the district, it's just an election time scare tactic by those that have nothing to offer but the same old crappy administration of our schools.

But, if they were on the ballot I would vote for them. Why? Because I want to see public school perform better. Right now there's no level field for competition. Public schools think "Fine, take your kids to private school, we get the money for them anyway".

There is no incentive for them to listen to the parents. They can play their new cirriculum games all they want, as long as they score well on CSAPs.

But, if parents were able to transfer their kids to a school of their choice and take their money with them, the schools would have to listen to what the parents want. I want a math cirriculum that requires memorization of the times tables. I've had teachers tell me that's not important - they'll get it through repition in higher grades. I want them to be instructed on the commonly accepted way to solve mathc problems, not left to 'discover' their own way of doing things.

If a population in a district is very religious, why shouldn't those parents be allowed to send their kids to a religious school, taking their allocation of tax dollars along? It's the parents that decide what's best for their kids, not someone that simply writes a check to the county because they own some property.

Basically, I know what my kids need, you don't. If I wanted a religious school for my kids, and believed that was the best method to teach them, why should I be forced to support a non-religious school with my tax dollars??


First off nobody, no where did I say you should not have the choice. You should

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28 Oct 2011 12:04 #32 by navycpo7

BearMtnHIB wrote:

My point here is more, right now there are vouchers or I think the politically correct term is free lunches, breakfasts, etc. The systems themselves are taxed almost to the limit. So if this happens does it bankrupt the system, or does the public school system suffer because of the vouchers. Or does anyone that is "in the know" actually know what will really happen.


What? Not sure what your saying here- vouchers are not for lunch or breakfasts, they pay the tuition for education. Right now there is no voucher program in Jeffco schools. I know (actually) what will happen if vouchers are put in place.

or does the public school system suffer because of the vouchers.

Nothing at all will happen to the public school system with a voucher program IF.....
the schools actually do a good job. Nothing will happen, the effect will be zero.

However- a voucher system gives parents a choice, and if the public system is not doing a good job- parents can take their kid (and a voucher) and attend a school that does do a good job. A bad public school will suffer- and a good one will not!

I have four niece's - two brothers with 2 kids each. My youngest brother has his girls in private schools- he pays double for this- first he pays his taxes for public schools, then he pays tuition to the private schools. Right now- one girl attends a lutheran school, and the other attends a catholic school. They are struggling to pay for these in addition to everything else, but they know that the education they get is superior to the public option.

My youngest brother could really use a voucher to take up some of the financial burden of the kids education.

My other brother has his two girls in public school. He can not afford to pay for both public school taxes and private tuition to send his girls to a private school. A voucher system would make the difference for him, he would be able to send his kids to the better schools. A voucher probably would not cover all the costs of a private school, but it would go a long way in helping out.

So in my family- a voucher system would be a win-win. Like I said, I don't give a crap about the public school system or the teachers union, I care about my four nieces- and I care that they get the best education possible.


I was just explaining the school system pays for the free lunches and breakfasts etc. Where does that money come from? So what does the voucher actually pay for. Is it the full amount partial amount what

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28 Oct 2011 12:24 #33 by BearMtnHIB
Well it should be the full amount of taxpayer dollars & funding that the school uses each year to educate the student. In Jeffco- that about $11,500 per student per year.

That money should be the value of the voucher- so the parent can take it to their school of choice. The good schools would be in demand and the lousy schools- not so much.

Instead the typical voucher is a fraction of the money- usually just a few thousand dollars. I guess this is what the school districts call "fair".

Jeffo does not have a voucher program- YET.

This is not about lunches- it's about education. Read more about what vouchers are here.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_voucher

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28 Oct 2011 16:27 #34 by LadyJazzer

CynicalBill wrote: If LJ is against it...that's all I need to know to be for it.


Likewise, I'm sure.

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28 Oct 2011 18:19 #35 by outdoor338
cynicalbill..I agree with you, if LJ is against it, then I am for it...esp vouchers...NEA has wrecked our Educational system...

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28 Oct 2011 19:25 #36 by archer
Hmmmm...so rather than make up your own minds, based on the merits of an issue, you make up your mind based on what side LJ takes. How adult of you. And how typically conservative...just like your congress critters...if Democrats propose it they're against it, even if it is something conservatives would normally support
What a petty way to form an opinion

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28 Oct 2011 21:04 #37 by outdoor338
ya, ain't it grand archer...

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28 Oct 2011 21:14 #38 by Wayne Harrison
Pssst LJ, you should come out against Obama.

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29 Oct 2011 07:51 #39 by HEARTLESS

Conservation Voice wrote: Pssst LJ, you should come out against Obama.

CV, when someone chooses to come out is their business. Lead by example.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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29 Oct 2011 08:04 #40 by 2wlady
I don't recall in any legislation that people are guaranteed a "right" of education in a religious school.

I want my tax dollars to remain separate from religious education.

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