"Obama got everything he wanted and it didn't work!"

30 Oct 2011 10:45 #1 by Wayne Harrison
On MSNBC's Morning Joe where Meet the Press host David Gregory made an appearance....

DAVID GREGORY: Mitch McConnell said something several weeks ago that I think really resonated, which is: the president got everything that he wanted and it didn't work. He got a big stimulus. He got health care reform, he got financial reform. The economy hasn't moved.

The only problem with Gregory’s statement is that it’s complete balderdash. Balderdash, I tell you!

Gregory continued, “He got a big stimulus. He got health care reform. He got financial reform. The economy hasn’t moved.”

As anyone with eyeballs can see, Gregory’s statement is wrong at both ends, and full of poppycock in the middle. President Obama didn’t get everything he wanted” in the stimulus, he got a whittled-down, 40% tax cut half-measure that was all he could get past the Republicans and the ConservaDems. Ditto health care reform, which had the most important measure for cutting costs, the public option, stripped from it by the same union of elephants and Blue Dogs. Now, it is valid to criticize the President for not being able to jawbone the turncoats in his own party, when they had unbreakable majorities in both houses, but no one would say he “got everything he wanted.”

As for financial reform, again, there are fair criticisms to be made of the measure, but it is clear that Republicans are blocking even implementation of that half-measure.

Despite all of this dilution, Gregory is also wrong that “it didn’t work,” and that “the economy hasn’t moved.” It actually has moved, a lot, out of 750,000 a month job loss pit, onto a more stable ground of 19 consecutive months of private sector job growth, and a just-announced 2.5% increase in GDP.

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30 Oct 2011 11:39 #2 by cydl
You know, no matter what Obama would have done with the economy he would have been damned. I think in many respects he has done quite well under impossible circumstances. A big part of whether or not the economy moves is perception. I agree that the economy, while weak, is starting to move a bit. I say that because I see myself and my coworkers getting phone calls and emails from recruiters. I talked with one the other day who says he has upwards of 60 positions that he can't find folks to fill. These are skilled, good paying positions. But folks are still nervous and not ready to commit to spending.

I am irritated with Congress as a whole and Obama that the health care bill turned out to be a mess. When it turned out that they were not able to get the major parts through they should have settled for the pre-existing conditions and coverage of kids and scrapped the rest. They got into forcing through this "grand idea" and ended up with a cluster.

Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, are a bunch of whiney, partisan, greedy idiots who care only about a) being re-elected and b) making the opposition look like bigger idiots than they are. So nothing worthwhile gets done and everyone suffers for it. I personally look upon D's and R's as simply different hos of the same pimp.

Having said that, I'm very upset with BO that he continues to back plans, either overtly or tacitly, that continue to erode our freedoms. Renewal of the Patriot Act. Expansion of the TSA. Support of the UN. Continued involvement in the Middle East.

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30 Oct 2011 13:08 #3 by Wayne Harrison

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30 Oct 2011 14:08 #4 by cydl
Love the avatar!

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30 Oct 2011 14:34 #5 by FredHayek
It was Obama's inexperience that helped to make the jumble of his early term. A President with actual legislative experience would have been able to do much more having the majority in both houses.
I think Hillary, with Bill's guidance, would have been able to craft more workable legislation that would have been more successful. Frankly Obama pretty much handed off to Pelosi and Reid to write and pass the bills.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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30 Oct 2011 14:43 #6 by Wayne Harrison
What? You mean a manager delegated? That's horrible.

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30 Oct 2011 15:14 #7 by LadyJazzer
Wow, after 8 years of "experience" Bush took us into the worst recession since the Great Depression, and was losing jobs at the rate of 750,000/month by the end of December, 2008... I guess that's not it....

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30 Oct 2011 15:53 #8 by Nmysys
IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!

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30 Oct 2011 17:00 #9 by outdoor338

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30 Oct 2011 17:02 #10 by The Viking

LadyJazzer wrote: Wow, after 8 years of "experience" Bush took us into the worst recession since the Great Depression, and was losing jobs at the rate of 750,000/month by the end of December, 2008... I guess that's not it....


:rofl rofllol :lol: Yeah Bush did it!! The Dems controlled both houses on congress when the recession started but Bush did it!! And Bush started the housing bubble crash that Clinton started too right? :rofl rofllol :lol:

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