I did not sign in, or register, and perhaps my point in this thread is to be completely disregarded as such, which is ok.
When it comes to morals, mine are extremely "low" in the eyes of outsiders, and very "high" in regards to those I consider family or clan. Outsider's lives literally mean squat to me and yes there are times when I see a family conflict with this. "So be it", is my mindset, my sole purpose is the serve the family or clan, all other lives are forfeit if necessary to serve those means. Ironically this mindset has recently come to 'war' within the group of which I belong. While attempting to take in the idea that my community, (i.e. Harris Park) can be my "clan", I've recently proposed the "elitist", (their word) idea that those of us in the group should meet certain physical fitness criteria to better serve the community and its needs. Is it so wrong that I don't feel confident having a 250lb, obese, slob trying to keep up with me and knowing that if he is wounded or gives in, I might have to lug his sorry ass around? Or worse, if I'm wounded, he outweighs me but still can't carry me out of harm's way due to his lack of physical conditioning? Regardless of how well he can shoot, if he can't prove himself in endurance and strength there's no point in me teaming with him..... and such are my morals.
But none of this might be pertinent to the thread at hand.... is it a sign of my morality that I refuse to sign in or register?
BadgerKustoms wrote: I did not sign in, or register, and perhaps my point in this thread is to be completely disregarded as such, which is ok.
When it comes to morals, mine are extremely "low" in the eyes of outsiders, and very "high" in regards to those I consider family or clan. Outsider's lives literally mean squat to me and yes there are times when I see a family conflict with this. "So be it", is my mindset, my sole purpose is the serve the family or clan, all other lives are forfeit if necessary to serve those means. Ironically this mindset has recently come to 'war' within the group of which I belong. While attempting to take in the idea that my community, (i.e. Harris Park) can be my "clan", I've recently proposed the "elitist", (their word) idea that those of us in the group should meet certain physical fitness criteria to better serve the community and its needs. Is it so wrong that I don't feel confident having a 250lb, obese, slob trying to keep up with me and knowing that if he is wounded or gives in, I might have to lug his sorry ass around? Or worse, if I'm wounded, he outweighs me but still can't carry me out of harm's way due to his lack of physical conditioning? Regardless of how well he can shoot, if he can't prove himself in endurance and strength there's no point in me teaming with him..... and such are my morals.
But none of this might be pertinent to the thread at hand.... is it a sign of my morality that I refuse to sign in or register?
Badger
Or he may wind up taking a bullet for you... would that be OK with you? What the f*ck are you babbling about. ANd what kind of "group" in Harris Park is so "elite" that you have to be deciding if someone is too fat to be part of your "group?" Did you get a hold of some bad sh*t or something? Maybe he's fat, and you're stupid. I rather have someone fat watching my back then someone stupid. If my comment doesn't make an ounce of sense, I suspect that it's because your comment above sound like the ramblings of a drunk.
BadgerKustoms wrote: I did not sign in, or register, and perhaps my point in this thread is to be completely disregarded as such, which is ok.
When it comes to morals, mine are extremely "low" in the eyes of outsiders, and very "high" in regards to those I consider family or clan. Outsider's lives literally mean squat to me and yes there are times when I see a family conflict with this. "So be it", is my mindset, my sole purpose is the serve the family or clan, all other lives are forfeit if necessary to serve those means. Ironically this mindset has recently come to 'war' within the group of which I belong. While attempting to take in the idea that my community, (i.e. Harris Park) can be my "clan", I've recently proposed the "elitist", (their word) idea that those of us in the group should meet certain physical fitness criteria to better serve the community and its needs. Is it so wrong that I don't feel confident having a 250lb, obese, slob trying to keep up with me and knowing that if he is wounded or gives in, I might have to lug his sorry ass around? Or worse, if I'm wounded, he outweighs me but still can't carry me out of harm's way due to his lack of physical conditioning? Regardless of how well he can shoot, if he can't prove himself in endurance and strength there's no point in me teaming with him..... and such are my morals.
But none of this might be pertinent to the thread at hand.... is it a sign of my morality that I refuse to sign in or register?
Badger
Oh... I see. I just noticed your little signature... "Support Harris Park Recon Ops." Google-fu... saw your Facebook page... adult-children playing soldier. Now I understand why your comment above seemed to lack any coherency.
And who defines morality? The Church. So if you do not believe in it's philosophy, hence guidelines for judging, then you automatically fall out of high moral values. I say BS. I do not need the Church to tell me what is and is not moral. If that is your persuasion, so be it. I'm glad you find comfort in it. I have a set of morals not instilled by the church. Those morals seem to be innate and of this universe, not some man's teachings about a being that no one can ever see, touch or talk to directly. I did not take the test and waste my time.
Rockdoc Franz wrote: And who defines morality? The Church. So if you do not believe in it's philosophy, hence guidelines for judging, then you automatically fall out of high moral values. I say BS. I do not need the Church to tell me what is and is not moral. If that is your persuasion, so be it. I'm glad you find comfort in it. I have a set of morals not instilled by the church. Those morals seem to be innate and of this universe, not some man's teachings about a being that no one can ever see, touch or talk to directly. I did not take the test and waste my time.
I did not take it either. But morality is subjective and I think alot of people go by society's standards. I happen to have some of my own, however.
Rockdoc Franz wrote: And who defines morality? The Church. So if you do not believe in it's philosophy, hence guidelines for judging, then you automatically fall out of high moral values. I say BS. I do not need the Church to tell me what is and is not moral. If that is your persuasion, so be it. I'm glad you find comfort in it. I have a set of morals not instilled by the church. Those morals seem to be innate and of this universe, not some man's teachings about a being that no one can ever see, touch or talk to directly. I did not take the test and waste my time.
I did not take it either. But morality is subjective and I think alot of people go by society's standards. I happen to have some of my own, however.
, just wanted you to know that my you was rhetorical not meaning you specifically. No confusion. I'm with you.
I agree with you too Homeagain. You simply put it better than I.
I took the test and it seems a bit pointed. There seem to be a lot of "political" questions in there that might have a different answer from different sides of the aisle. Results seems to be a bit scatterbrained as well.
The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: Or he may wind up taking a bullet for you... would that be OK with you? What the f*ck are you babbling about. ANd what kind of "group" in Harris Park is so "elite" that you have to be deciding if someone is too fat to be part of your "group?" Did you get a hold of some bad sh*t or something? Maybe he's fat, and you're stupid. I rather have someone fat watching my back then someone stupid. If my comment doesn't make an ounce of sense, I suspect that it's because your comment above sound like the ramblings of a drunk.
The FB page wasn't my idea or design and I can see where you would reach such conclusions. Really does need better detail and pics. It doesn't show the recovery trucks, which might be the only immediate 'help' should your Jeep or Hyundai get stuck in large snow drift back here. Doesn't show the climbing gear and personel recovery should you or perhaps one of your children be reported as lost in the woods, we can help you. It doesn't state how IF, a total economic collapse should occur, that some of us are capable of "prospecting", i.e. going out in search of necessary meds the community might require such as insulin or oxygen.
No you're right, the FB page makes us look like somekind of militia, which while that wouldn't necessarily be a 'bad' thing, its inaccurate. The 'large guy' I refer to has one of the coolest HAM radio set ups I think I've ever seen, and that's his thing. Its what he's good at, its what he does and its what he should do. Imagine the difficulty of working with him in a personel recovery situation. He'd be out of breath a lot, weather might be trying to turn, time could be a big factor in everyone's survival. He'd be a liability in such a situation regardless of his heart's good will and intention.
Some of these guys aren't "playing soldier" as you put it, they ARE actual soldiers and that is where their directive and training comes from. A couple also work for private security in Iraq, and then there are those of us who instruct self-defense to those willing to learn. My only 'point' in this thread was to simply show that morals are a subjective thing on a personal level. What's "right" for me, might not be for others.