Y'all are so screwed (I have a month's worth of food, but no ammunition, other than my big mouth on the internet)! :jk2:
Preppers Who Have Guns, Ammunition, 7 Days of Food Can Be Considered a Potential Terrorist
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Uploaded by MacSlavo on Dec 5, 2011
It's not just the hundreds of thousands of members in the alternative media community that are pointing out the dangers to liberty posed by government's anti-terror legislation. In this speech calling for the removal of the detainee provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act, Senator Paul highlights, in surprising detail, activities that are now considered by Homeland security and law enforcement to be suspicious and potentially terroristic.
"Someone missing fingers on their hands is a suspect according to the Department of Justice. Someone who has guns, someone who has ammunition that is weatherproofed, someone who has more than seven days of food in their house can be considered a potential terrorist."
"If you are suspected by these activities do you want the government to have the ability to send you to Guantanamo Bay for indefinite detention?"
It's obvious to anyone paying attention that the war on terror is being used as the premise to further restrict the individual liberties of American citizens.
The NDAA's military detention provisions thus represent a frontal attack on the Fifth Amendment (which once guaranteed due process) and the Sixth Amendment (which once ensured the rights to trial, access to counsel and an opportunity to confront accusers). They also deeply erode the First Amendment - but in a less obvious way, and a way in which any activist would do well to consider.
The NDAA would vastly enhance those government powers, creating the authority to detain indefinitely without trial. Mere accusation would be enough to deny freedom to law-abiding people.
The NDAA would expand those assaults by eliminating the need to prosecute. In the hands of a president, attorney general, US attorney, or even, potentially, state or local prosecutors willing to use their powers for political purposes, it offers the legal authority for severe repression.
The vote on the Udall Amendment, which would have forbidden the indefinite detention of US civilians, was defeated by a vote of 60-38 in the Senate, including all but three of the senators from the party that's constantly pretending to be anxious over an intrusively big government.
The Republicans who argued against the measure on the floor of the Senate naturally attributed their effective support for the abolition of the Fourth Amendment to the threat posed by terrorism. The White House has threatened to veto the NDAA, but not because the detention policies grant too much power to law enforcement - instead, because they grant too little (my emphasis added)
While no one has any indication that the government will begin indefinitely imprisoning nonviolent dissenters, the mere loss of impediments is reason enough to prick up one's ears with suspicion.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
Let's say my neighbor's dog won't stop barking....can I use this law to get him out of the hood? I mean if I cannot get some peaceful sleep, the GDP could go down this year and thus his dog attack is hurting us all.
Additionally, I think I remember him talking about carrying a buckknife on a plane in 1998 and security even looked at it...that's relivant too, right? Do you think you could get locked up if someone finds crayon drawings you did in 1956 of a building blowing up?
I predict if there is any looseness to such a regulations, that the thought of being able to craft one's enimies out of one's way would keep authorities pretty busy. It's bad enough knowing that just one comment from one random citizen could result in your kids getting taken away...now this system could apply to everyone. Really seems like the concept of our society as a whole would be at risk, I almost cannot believe it, citizens just plucked up and carried away? Quite of a few Jewish People and Gypsies were carried away and even killed before the good people of Germany finally rose up and stopped the madness, oh wait, they did not stop it themselves...almost makes you want to ask, given the recent history and the fact that such a bill could easily be law today or tomorrow....how many citizens do you think would be locked up before some group interally or externally stepped in.
Wouldn't this end up in the supreme court and won't they simply look at the law relative to the constitution and not the fear mongering of the decade?
COTI One can only hope that the full negative potential of this regulation is not realized. I've little hope that will be the case. Given how society and our government has evolved, I also have limited faith in our judicial system rendering a sensible ruling. Paranoia currently rules.
Somber Drive-by statement: This really concerns me and from what I am reading, all three sides of the aisle from the folks posting in here. For once, there appears to be an agreement of concern.