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That's correct, drilling more now won't do much good right now - the payoff will come later for drilling more now - if we were 4 years into developing the OCS areas, the threatened loss of oil from the Middle East would not be impacting prices nearly as much because we would have the ability to replace a fair amount of that lost supply. Drilling more now means that more is added to the proven reserves that exist, not just here but around the globe. It is the ability to meet the demand from the known supply that sets the price. If the proven reserves around the globe were double what they are now the cost of a barrel of oil would be significantly less than it is. When it appears that ability to meet future demand is questionable, be it from Iran threatening to close the straits and/or a lack of added supply, the price of oil goes up. If it were possible to replace every drop of supply that would be lost if Iran closed the strait, there would not be a rise in the cost of oil - and the cost per barrel would lower as a result of the additional proven ability to supply future demand. The continued opposition to drilling only helps those that have drilled already because they then control the supply.netdude wrote: IN 36 years, drilling more has not made the price at the pump any less:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... TE=DEFAULT
So drilling more now is not the panacea for high gas prices..... it is a fantasy conjured up by the oil companies to FURTHER increase there profits... and used by the right to manipulate the ill-informed... nothing more.
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And what is it that the speculators are speculating on LJ? Whether or not the strait remains open, correct? Know what would change how many billions of barrels of proven reserves exist? More drilling. We could prove what the reserves in ANWR are instead of speculating about them. We could prove what the reserves that exist in the OCS are instead of speculating about them. The more we drill, the more we prove what the reserves in existence are. If we had been drilling in the OCS for the past 4 years we might have doubled the proven reserves that we do have as well as the ability to supply our refineries if the strait is closed - and the absence of both of those is directly involved in both the cost of a barrel of oil and the price that speculators are willing to gamble on bidding.LadyJazzer wrote: You mean all those leases they bought the rights to under the Bush Administration?... Perhaps you should ask them?
Gee, it doesn't change the fact that we're producing more than we ever have--so much so, in fact, that we're exporting it. Gee, it doesn't change the fact that the speculators are adding 15% to the cost of every barrel. Gee, it doesn't change the fact that worldwide consumption has gone up 40% in the last 10 years.... Gee, it doesn't change the fact that we can't drill ourselves to lower gas prices in the U.S. because "the United States only has about 19.1 billion barrels of proven reserves, representing only about 1 to 2% of the world's proven oil reserves."
But you keep regurgitating... I could watch your spin your horsecrap for hours.
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FredHayek wrote: LJ,
You really need to stop listening to the 1984 double speak of the media and Obama administration. War is peace, drilling produces less oil? Oil pipelines increase prices.
Up is down?
The Obama administration are the same people who want higher gas prices, so having them talk about this issue is perilous at best.
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Common sense...wish it was more common. :thumbsup:popcorn eater wrote: People who see gas going up when it is, tend to fill up their tanks full because a future purchase will likely be at a higher rate.
They are speculating and millions of us do it when the price changes.
People who see gas going down when it is, tend to not fill up their tanks full because a future purchase will likely be at a lower rate.
They are speculating and millions of us do it when the price changes.
Our collective speculating may add up to more than the power players we all tend to worship as being in control.
This is natural. It is a survival instict. It cannot be stopped, it will just come back again. We must simply deal with it.
Farmers speculate every year that winter will come and then it will be followed by spring, they even read scientific predictions to adjust their speculation and actions.
No report needed to understand this. Anyone remember when you thought your house would just be worth more and more each year....again speculation.
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Mitt Romney Gas Prices Rhetoric Doesn't Get Support Of His Own Economists
WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney on the campaign trail has chided President Barack Obama for failing to curb prices at the pump, even as prominent economists have debunked those talking points, saying there's little the president can do to lower prices in the short term. Now the latest twist: No one from Romney's economic team will step forward to defend him. And not for want of opportunity.
After Romney insisted that more drilling in Mexico and in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge could bring down the cost of gas, The Huffington Post contacted members of Romney's economic team -- two revolving-door lobbyists and two former chairmen of the Council of Economic Advisers under President George W. Bush -- to ask if they would vouch for the claim.
"I will pass. Sorry," prominent macroeconomist Gregory Mankiw, a Romney advisor, replied when contacted by HuffPost about an interview. Other queries were similarly denied or unreturned.
Other economists haven't been shy about debunking the claim, explaining that U.S. energy policy has very little effect either on oil prices or on overall U.S. employment. Recent studies have backed them up. The Associated Press' statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly, inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and U.S. domestic oil production found no statistical correlation between gas prices and how much oil comes out of U.S. wells.
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LadyJazzer wrote:
Mitt Romney Gas Prices Rhetoric Doesn't Get Support Of His Own Economists
WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney on the campaign trail has chided President Barack Obama for failing to curb prices at the pump, even as prominent economists have debunked those talking points, saying there's little the president can do to lower prices in the short term. Now the latest twist: No one from Romney's economic team will step forward to defend him. And not for want of opportunity.
After Romney insisted that more drilling in Mexico and in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge could bring down the cost of gas, The Huffington Post contacted members of Romney's economic team -- two revolving-door lobbyists and two former chairmen of the Council of Economic Advisers under President George W. Bush -- to ask if they would vouch for the claim.
"I will pass. Sorry," prominent macroeconomist Gregory Mankiw, a Romney advisor, replied when contacted by HuffPost about an interview. Other queries were similarly denied or unreturned.
Other economists haven't been shy about debunking the claim, explaining that U.S. energy policy has very little effect either on oil prices or on overall U.S. employment. Recent studies have backed them up. The Associated Press' statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly, inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and U.S. domestic oil production found no statistical correlation between gas prices and how much oil comes out of U.S. wells.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... f=politics
Well, Dang... It's pretty bad when Gov. Etch-a-Sketch can't even get his own economists to back up his lies.
"So today, I've come to Cushing, an oil town, because producing more oil and gas here at home has been, and will continue to be, a critical part of an all-of-the-above energy strategy,"[/i] Obama told an audience gathered at the Cushing Pipe Yard.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics ... alking-oil
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Well, Dang... It's pretty bad when Gov. Etch-a-Sketch can't even get his own economists to back up his lies.
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