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28 Mar 2012 09:58 #1 by Rick
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The KKK started gathering and demanded that a black man be captured dead or alive because he shot a white kid? Would the DOJ get involved and do something about this hate group? If so, should they also be doing something about the Black Panthers or are the exempt just like when they were intimidating voters? Is vigilanty justice ok for some but not for others?

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28 Mar 2012 10:53 #2 by FredHayek
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Good point, I hope the New Black Panthers are at least being told to stand down on this.

Similar point, if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ignite riots over this death, aren't they partially responsible?

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28 Mar 2012 12:41 #3 by Reverend Revelant
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FredHayek wrote: Good point, I hope the New Black Panthers are at least being told to stand down on this.

Similar point, if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ignite riots over this death, aren't they partially responsible?


Of course... you must have heard the white/black Obama denouncing this reward from the New Black Panthers? You haven't? Maybe I'm mistaken, maybe he didn't.

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28 Mar 2012 12:47 #4 by JSG
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Black Panther who posted bounty for Martin's killer arrested

The New Black Panther Party member behind the call for vigilante justice against Trayvon Martin's killer has been arrested.

­On Monday Hashim Nzinga was imprisoned for an unrelated weapons charge.

According to a Dekalb County Sheriff’s arrest warrant, Nzinga had a FN Herstal 5.7 x 28 handgun which was pawned.

Over the weekend Nzinga announced to the media that anyone who was able to capture Zimmerman, “dead or alive” would be handed a reward of $10,000.

The New Black Panther Party’s campaign to track and hunt down Martin’s killer was widely promoted with flyers and press conferences all across Sanford, Florida, the location of the black teen’s death.

The radical group's national chief of staff was arrested during a visit to a probation office by his probation officer.

http://rt.com/usa/news/arrest-panther-z ... n-new-688/

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28 Mar 2012 12:52 #5 by LadyJazzer
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Good... That kind of vigilantism is as disgusting and unacceptable as the original vigilantism of Zimmerman that caused the death in the first place.

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28 Mar 2012 13:00 #6 by FredHayek
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Interesting. The pistol the Black Panther had was the same model as used by Major Hassan at Fort Hood. Inspired by the "workplace shooter"?

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28 Mar 2012 13:19 #7 by Reverend Revelant
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The left is LOOSING all the political credibility they thought they had with the Trayvon case. At first, it appeared that they had found a new messiah, someone who they could put on a pedestal and abuse as a symbol of the contrived rampant white on black crime and racism that permeates ever facet of our white dominated society. But with in days of the "I am Trayvon" campaign, the lefts narrative started to unravel. They had to use a a term that is rarely used in media or in the Latino community, a "white Hispanic." This is not an unknown designation, but it is also not commonly used. I was married to a Hispanic for 15 years, my brother was married to a Mexican for 26 years and neither of us had ever heard that term. And as quick Google search will show you, that except for the recent press on Zimmerman, that term is almost absent from the journalistic record.

Since the police were just wrapping up the investigation into the killing, there was not much public information on exactly what happened on that night. We had Zimmerman's account and a few neighbors who had information after the fact. So the left ran with the spotty first look account and built a case against Zimmerman and threw it at the public. Our national race-baiting national treasures Jackson and Sharpton jumped on the proverbial bandwagon and began beating the racism drums... and the media followed the beat and built a picture of a puppy-faced angel who looked like the male child that the Obama never had. Unfortunately that picture was 3-4 years old (and the media knew that) and showed Trayvon in a light that had nothing to do with his present look or demeanor. But it served it's purpose. Zimmerman just killed the boy-next-door.

And with in days the race-baiting-team whipped up a conference in Washington DC. How did they do that in under a week's time? You can't even find a taxi cab without preplanning in Washington... on a good day. Of course our President chimed in, fully ready willing and able to use this killing to his political "advantage". He asked us to search our souls, as if we all, inclusively, are tinged with racism, even if we don't know it ourselves (shades of Critical Race Theory).

But all this has now begun to unravel. The police released some of the information that they were submitting to the grand jury. It appears that much of Zimmerman's account has been verified by at least one eye witness. And transcripts of the 911 tapes reveal collaborating evidence as to the time line and sequence of the events. And further information about Trayvon (and this information actually being recent) shows that their messiah is a stained messiah, someone who doesn't look so very good on a pedestal.

None of these facts makes Zimmerman any more or less guilty of a possible crime. He may have overreacted, he may be in the least guilty of manslaughter and Trayvon death is tragic no matter how you look at it. And Zimmerman is going to have to live with this the rest of his life. The laws of Florida that allows this kind of self defense may have to be reconsidered. But try as they may, the left is loosing the manufactured narrative on this incident. It's not working out for them in the least, and over the last 36 hours, the race-baiters on the left have been very silent.

Maybe they have shut their divisive mouths for a while and we can get along with examining the real issues, such as black on black murders, true intentional racism and real racial violence and the true intentions of race-baiting politics.

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28 Mar 2012 13:33 #8 by Soulshiner
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It would be as wrong and called so as the NBPP has been.

Fred, you must have some muscular legs to be make jumps like that insinuating a "connection"...

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28 Mar 2012 14:10 #9 by FredHayek
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This Belgium made FN pistol isn't very popular in the US or in pop culture so I find it an interesting choice. The ammo is quite expensive and rare, like the gun.

And the gun was developed to defeat bulletproof vests. Originally created for a NATO contract so that officers and support personnel could protect themselves against Soviet troops with body armor.

If Hassan & this guy had both used Glock's like the Tucson shooter and many police departments, it would have been no big deal.

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28 Mar 2012 14:22 #10 by Reverend Revelant
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FredHayek wrote: This Belgium made FN pistol isn't very popular in the US or in pop culture so I find it an interesting choice. The ammo is quite expensive and rare, like the gun.

And the gun was developed to defeat bulletproof vests. Originally created for a NATO contract so that officers and support personnel could protect themselves against Soviet troops with body armor.

If Hassan & this guy had both used Glock's like the Tucson shooter and many police departments, it would have been no big deal.


It's still no big deal... you don't have anything Fred... I have the same type of luger that Hitler owned... according to your logic that possibly makes me a... ?

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