Controlled Burns

A two week halt is political fodder. Lets examine the real issues here - and I invite the ELECTED folks to join (lets post 285 the NAMES of those we elect to make these decisions(smoke 'em out) ) - why have controlled burns at all ? Why not chip the downed material and spread it back into the forrest floor - data and studies please. We chip and resorted the mulch already in Conifer - massively. Lets look carefully at the "firefighter" culture

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these good folks (we pay for each )- cut the material (mostly) and then the management has a choice to burn to recycle. OK - then they destroy homes and much valuable timber in a need to "restore the forrest" : ......Help me here.......I am amazed -we may well cut the cost massively by simply buying and deploying chippers - most firefighters spend most of their time "training" and awaiting the next mess

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what ?

You are going to take a risk with controlled burn. Doing one in March a normally wet time of year is usually ok. South Park has a controlled burn in Fall one year and the coals burned all winter long under the snow before they ignited next spring.

Much of our terrain would be impossible to get a chipper back into. They usually aren't talking about neighborhoods.

Controlled burns are fine...I've done them myself, BUT rules need to be followed. A resident with a burn permit can't do one unless there is a favorable forecast, and at least 2" on all ground cover. I schedule mine for when snow is heavy....so much that I have to dig the piles out.

In the past 15 years, there have been five major fires in this community.

1. Buffalo Creek Fire - cause by human - ignited on over grown goverment lands.
2. High Meadow - cause unknown - believe to be human cause - started on private lands - primarily consumed over grown government lands
3. Snaking Fire - cause by human - not sure what lands it burnt behind the school - but was started on government (school) lands.
4. Hayman Fire - caused by government employee - primarily consumed over grown government lands.
5. Lower North Folk Fire - caused by government employees - ignited on over grown government lands.

So can we deduct .... over grown government lands and government employees are the problem?

Both the Buffalo Creek and the Snaking fires were caused by students.

Mtn Gramma wrote: Both the Buffalo Creek and the Snaking fires were caused by students.

Government drones.

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Mtn Gramma wrote: :faint:

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Seriously, it's time that we begin to harvest trees off of the government lands.


Side note: If they burn up enough of that forest and the private lands around the North Fork....the Denver Water Board might end up getting their dam and Conifer could end up as a lakefront community.

Chippers can be placed anywhere

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easily. Recall Los Alamos burned because of a controlled burn. The other causes are not germane to the discussion - they will always be there. Firefighting is a growth business and culture - some we need (we pay for it all) and much is not needed if approaches other than controlled (wrong word) is deployed.

Seriously, it's time that we begin to harvest trees off of the government lands.

I agree completely.

A few years ago, friends of ours who live near the end of Pleasant Park had the forestry service come in to survey the area and give guidance on thinning trees. The friends then worked out an agreement with a logging company (reduced fee, loggers keep the wood, remove the slash, etc), had the work done with minimal disruption to the property (a couple 100 acres I believe). It can be done if the government is willing to work with the private sector.