Why Executives Need To Be Prosecuted For Corporate Crime

19 Apr 2012 10:00 #11 by MWMGROUP

LadyJazzer wrote: I think we should be able to prosecute Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld for war crimes, since we KNOW that they were told in advance that torture was illegal. How about that?


Looks like typical Liberal spin. It can't even answer your question, but rather deflect it back to the Blame Bush Camp!

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19 Apr 2012 10:18 #12 by FredHayek

LadyJazzer wrote: I think we should be able to prosecute Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld for war crimes, since we KNOW that they were told in advance that torture was illegal. How about that?


And Obama & Panetta if they have continued to allow their underlings to continue to do it?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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19 Apr 2012 10:45 #13 by LadyJazzer
And you have PROOF that they continued to do it under Panetta?

I'd like to see a like to that, please.

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19 Apr 2012 13:54 #14 by MWMGROUP

LadyJazzer wrote: And you have PROOF that they continued to do it under Panetta?

I'd like to see a like to that, please.



How about you answer the original question that was directed at you? I'd like to see that, please!

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19 Apr 2012 15:18 #15 by LadyJazzer

MWMGROUP wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: And you have PROOF that they continued to do it under Panetta?

I'd like to see a like to that, please.



How about you answer the original question that was directed at you? I'd like to see that, please!


You mean the question about "Fast & Furious" that started under Bush as "Operation Wide Receiver"?

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I'm still waiting for the Bush people that were behind it to be charged.

AP sources: Bush-era probe involved guns 'walking'

Feds say hundreds of guns were transferred to suspected arms traffickers from 2006-2007

WASHINGTON — The federal government under the Bush administration ran an operation that allowed hundreds of guns to be transferred to suspected arms traffickers — the same tactic that congressional Republicans have criticized President Barack Obama's administration for using, two federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and other Republicans have been hammering the Obama Justice Department over the practice known as "letting guns walk." The congressional target has been Operation Fast and Furious, which was designed to track small-time gun buyers at several Phoenix-area gun shops up the chain to make cases against major weapons traffickers. In the process, federal agents lost track of many of the more than 2,000 guns linked to the operation.

When Bush, a Republican, was president, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Tucson, Ariz., used a similar enforcement tactic in a program it called Operation Wide Receiver. The fact that there were two such ATF investigations years apart in separate administrations raises the possibility that agents in still other cases may have allowed guns to "walk."

For months, Issa and other Republicans have focused on whether Attorney General Eric Holder misled Congress, suggesting that he knew more than he has admitted about Operation Fast and Furious.

On Tuesday, the House Judiciary Committee chairman, Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, called on Obama to direct the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to investigate. Smith said that newly released department documents suggest the attorney general knew about Operation Fast and Furious as early as July 2010. Smith noted that Holder had told Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, in March of this year that he had recently learned of "concerns" about the program and told Smith's committee in May that he had probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time "over the last few weeks."

Holder's testimony this year "was consistent and truthful," responded Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler. She said Holder became aware of the questionable tactics in early 2011, when ATF agents first raised them publicly. None of the handful of entries in 2010 regarding Fast and Furious suggested there was anything amiss with that investigation requiring leadership to take corrective action or commit to memory this particular operation, Schmaler added.

Federal law enforcement officials familiar with the matter say Operation Wide Receiver began in 2006 after the agency received information about a suspicious purchase of firearms. The investigation concluded in 2007 without any charges being filed.

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I'm still waiting for the PROOF that torture continued under Obama... [crickets chirping] Deflect much?

And NONE of this has to do with the OP about prosecuting Corporate Criminals and sending them to jail for their crimes. (I think BP would be a good start; I think Goldman-Sachs, and Lehmann Brothers would be good...They've already prosecuted and imprisoned some of the slime from Enron...GOOD.)

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19 Apr 2012 15:26 #16 by FredHayek
Just thrown out as a hypothetical scenario since Obama has pretty much followed Bush's foreign policy.
1) Gitmo? Still open.
2) Drone war? Expanded under President Obama with high civvie casualties.
3) Fought wars without Congressional approval (Libya)
4) Rendition (Think those foreign prisons don't torture?)

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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19 Apr 2012 15:38 #17 by LadyJazzer
I'm still waiting for a provable source that torture is continuing under Obama. When you have that, let me know...

[crickets chirping]

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20 Apr 2012 16:09 #19 by Rick

Freezeman wrote: articles.cnn.com/2011-09-30/politics/pol...ssile?_s=PM:POLITICS

Here you go.

Yes you're right. According to liberal dingbats like LJ, getting vaporized without a trial is much better than the fear of drowning. So not only did we kill a terrorist without a trial, we also killed his son without even one liberal tear shed.
Oh yes, give the terrorist a choice between getting waterboarded or killed and see how many choose the latter.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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