By Victor Davis Hanson

22 Apr 2012 22:59 #1 by Blazer Bob
http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/it ... er-stupid/

"But, of course, the Obama (who attacked each and every element of the war on terror as a legislator and senator) Left never had any principled objection at all. Instead, whatever Bush was for, they were in Pavlovian fashion against. I can say that without a charge of cynicism, because after January 2009, Obama embraced or expanded every Bush-Cheney protocol that he inherited. In response, the anti-war Left simply kept silent, or indeed vanished, or went to work extending the anti-terrorism agenda. Guantanamo Bay, in other words, was a national sin until the mid-morning of January 20, 2009."

Insert standard deflections here, _____________________________.

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22 Apr 2012 23:38 #2 by archer
Replied by archer on topic By Victor Davis Hanson
That's pretty funny.....as if the day Obama became president he could make the wars just disappear. Bush left him with the legacy of 2 wars......there is no hypocrisy in protesting against the man who STARTED the wars, against the ill-advised invasion of Iraq, against going to war without a plan, against the deaths of thousands of American young men and women, but realizing, once he is commander in chief, the lives of those men and women are in his hands and he must end the wars responsibly and with dignity for the US. To try and make this into a political statement against him is to cheapen the enormous task our nation and those who defend it have taken on, and the lives lost and forever changed by this these wars. Frankly NC....I found the fact you even posted something like this offensive. It makes our military men and women into pawns to be used by politicians and that is just wrong.

The left never changed it's position on the wars themselves, and they helped elect the man who would look at those wars as needing to be ended responsibly, rather than a stepping stone to further wars in the middle east, perhaps in Iran.

Now, do you think you can fit all that on your "standard deflection" line?

Curiosity question.....do you think our country would be in the economic downturn it is now if we had never gone to war in Iraq and Afghanistan? I believe we could have gotten Bin Laden without war and it would have sent a far more powerful message to the world than 10 years of a war we can never fully win.

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22 Apr 2012 23:52 #3 by Blazer Bob
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Congratulations archer. I did not know you were capable of such a sophisticated deflection. So now this is about my denigrating the military. RIGHT. :popcorn:


archer wrote: That's pretty funny.....as if the day Obama became president he could make the wars just disappear. Bush left him with the legacy of 2 wars......there is no hypocrisy in protesting against the man who STARTED the wars, against the ill-advised invasion of Iraq, against going to war without a plan, against the deaths of thousands of American young men and women, but realizing, once he is commander in chief, the lives of those men and women are in his hands and he must end the wars responsibly and with dignity for the US. To try and make this into a political statement against him is to cheapen the enormous task our nation and those who defend it have taken on, and the lives lost and forever changed by this these wars. Frankly NC....I found the fact you even posted something like this offensive. It makes our military men and women into pawns to be used by politicians and that is just wrong.

The left never changed it's position on the wars themselves, and they helped elect the man who would look at those wars as needing to be ended responsibly, rather than a stepping stone to further wars in the middle east, perhaps in Iran.

Now, do you think you can fit all that on your "standard deflection" line?

Curiosity question.....do you think our country would be in the economic downturn it is now if we had never gone to war in Iraq and Afghanistan? I believe we could have gotten Bin Laden without war and it would have sent a far more powerful message to the world than 10 years of a war we can never fully win.

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22 Apr 2012 23:59 #4 by archer
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neptunechimney wrote: Congratulations archer. I did not know you were capable of such a sophisticated deflection. So now this is about my denigrating the military. RIGHT. :popcorn:


No, this is about you posting something that I believe politicizes the military and the sacrifice of thousands of military men and women. Only you know how you feel about our military, and what the war has meant to them and their families.....

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23 Apr 2012 00:01 - 23 Apr 2012 00:01 #5 by archer
Replied by archer on topic By Victor Davis Hanson
would you care to answer the question I asked? You don't have to, I was just curious

:pop

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23 Apr 2012 00:01 #6 by Blazer Bob
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archer wrote: Now, do you think you can fit all that on your "standard deflection" line?


PS, my "standard deflection" line? rofllol


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23 Apr 2012 00:02 #7 by archer
Replied by archer on topic By Victor Davis Hanson
You made it your own, I guess you must have liked it. I didn't see you give LJ as a source for that.

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23 Apr 2012 00:03 #8 by Blazer Bob
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archer wrote: would you care to answer the question I asked? You don't have to, I was just curious

:pop


No. My crystal ball is in the shop. Would you care to comment on the op-ed? Did you read it?

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23 Apr 2012 00:06 #9 by archer
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neptunechimney wrote:
Would you care to comment on the op-ed? Did you read it?


no, and yes.

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23 Apr 2012 00:08 #10 by Blazer Bob
Replied by Blazer Bob on topic By Victor Davis Hanson

archer wrote:

neptunechimney wrote:
Would you care to comment on the op-ed? Did you read it?


no, and yes.


Good night. We have to stop meeting like this.

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