LadyJazzer wrote: Let's just get him ARRESTED and into the court system first... THEN, they will have their chance to prove what REALLY happened "beyond a reasonable doubt." If they've got the facts, he's toast...And if they don't, he walks.
The problem with your vigilante lustings is that before they can put him into the court system they have to have a reasonable expectation of being able to prove the charges beyond a reasonable doubt. If they don't then they have violated his rights to due process under the law. You don' think anyone should be denied their right to due process under the law, do you LJ?
LadyJazzer wrote: You idiot, I'm ASKING for "due process"... And they can arrest ANYONE on SUSPICION of ANYTHING at ANY TIME -- (including
"suspicion of unpaid parking tickets"--even when they've been paid
). And then the clock starts ticking for them to either show enough evidence to hold him, or turn him loose. The WHOLE POINT is that they circumvented the whole process.
"Almost no facts?" You're either a liar, or you are an idiot..... or both.
...And for the record I HAVE been on a grand jury...and we DID find cause to bind the guy over...and he WAS convicted...
Funny to see the Left defending the Feds on the Occupy bridge bombing. I will wait for more stories and vetting before I decide how guilty these people are.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
FredHayek wrote: Funny to see the Left defending the Feds on the Occupy bridge bombing. I will wait for more stories and vetting before I decide how guilty these people are.
Oh, so you were full of crap when you said:
FredHayek wrote: And I wonder if the FBI inspired them to blow up the bridge? They were probably just big talkers and the FBI mole pushed them along in their plans.
The old joke about the KKK was half the people at the meetings were Feds. Or the spot the fed game, the undercover agent is the guy who wants your group to blow up something.
I'm glad to see that you're "going to wait", instead of "wondering if the FBI inspired them"... rofllol
Any different than you predicting that Obama will easily win an election that is still months away? I was just speculating. You were declaring the GOP has no chance.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
And flipping positions on suggesting that the FBI put the anarchists up to the crime vs. waiting for more stories and "vetting" has exactly WHAT to do with the outcome of an election months away?
Wow... You can twist yourself into the most interesting shapes trying to escape your stupidity and deflect to unrelated crap more than anyone on here...
So some thugs paid the feds for some C4 that turned out to be playdoh and they didn't get their explosion... So what? Bad guys go to jail and the feds get to enjoy spoiling a plan that could have killed and injured hundreds of people as well as halting transportation in the area.
Somehow it must have violated their "rights" to blow stuff up... Oh wait, that's not covered in the constitution...
Somehow, liberals are incensed? Be as offended as you want to be Libtards!
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus
Incensed? Hardly... I'm delighted that they were caught. "Bad guys go to jail and the feds get to enjoy spoiling a plan that could have killed and injured hundreds of people as well as halting transportation in the area. " GOOD! What part of that do you think I don't agree with?
If I'm incensed, it's at the stupidity of the usual Neanderthals and RepTards who started out by suggesting that it was an FBI entrapment. (You really want to go there with the "Libtards" crap?)
LadyJazzer wrote: Here...I'll save you the trouble...
LadyJazzer wrote: Let's just get him ARRESTED and into the court system first... THEN, they will have their chance to prove what REALLY happened "beyond a reasonable doubt." If they've got the facts, he's toast...And if they don't, he walks.
The problem with your vigilante lustings is that before they can put him into the court system they have to have a reasonable expectation of being able to prove the charges beyond a reasonable doubt. If they don't then they have violated his rights to due process under the law. You don' think anyone should be denied their right to due process under the law, do you LJ?
LadyJazzer wrote: You idiot, I'm ASKING for "due process"... And they can arrest ANYONE on SUSPICION of ANYTHING at ANY TIME -- (including
"suspicion of unpaid parking tickets"--even when they've been paid
). And then the clock starts ticking for them to either show enough evidence to hold him, or turn him loose. The WHOLE POINT is that they circumvented the whole process.
"Almost no facts?" You're either a liar, or you are an idiot..... or both.
...And for the record I HAVE been on a grand jury...and we DID find cause to bind the guy over...and he WAS convicted...
Jesus, these guys are shredding their credibility by the hour now. Fred, can you at least admit that your statement, "You were convinced he should be brought to trial on almost no facts." was completely wrong?
We are getting to a tipping point where there will be no debate on 285Bound, because the outright lies and distortions are going to make discussing anything with these posters a exercise in futility. Hell, it took Nmysys a total lie about his involvement in the site to finally get him to stop with the BS.
How about instead of trying to get someone from the other point of view to agree to civil discussion, why don't you guys try to get each other to only make posts that are true and not distorted? Why don't you guys get together and agree to do some research BEFORE you start a thread that can be proved false with the most basic google search? When you guys start to post like that, you will get civil discussion. Keep posting lies and distortions and by the end of summer, no one will post here except the bitterest of posters.
When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter
