Gun Owners: Beware Mitt Romney

None of that matters fish...he has the magic R after his name.

It does matter- people like me were warning about Romney's disgraceful record when it comes to gun rights. He signed several bills as goberner in violation of the second amendment.

But the fact is- he is now the nominee, and the time to nominate a real conservative has passed us by. I never did like Romney- he is not a conservative- but another big government republican.

But I may hold my nose away from the stench and vote for him- in order to get Obama out of there. I guess I'd rather have a big government republican- than a socialist in the white house.

The fact is- we need to keep a close eye on him once elected- and be ready to raise hell if he proposes any futher errosion of gun rights. And the fact is- we need to be ready with any of these big government types, don't matter if it's an "R" or a "D".

If if you really care about the 2nd and it's as important to you as it is to me- quit nominating these fools- vote Libertarian- or at least for a conservative who pledges to uphold the constitution.

That's what I do.

"BearMtnHIB wrote: The fact is- we need to keep a close eye on him once elected- and be ready to raise hell if he proposes any futher errosion of gun rights. And the fact is- we need to be ready with any of these big government types, don't matter if it's an "R" or a "D".

If if you really care about the 2nd and it's as important to you as it is to me- quit voting for these fools- vote Libertarian- or at least for a conservative who pledges to uphold the constitution.

I agree 100% on both points. Problem is with voting Libertarian is that we need more folks to eschew the two major parties. We need to get folks out of that mindset that not voting Rep or Dem is "throwing ones vote away".

And the flip side of that is, when a legislator or POTUS does show utter disregard for the Constitution we need to be more vocal about their actions!

BearMtnHIB wrote:

None of that matters fish...he has the magic R after his name.

It does matter- people like me were warning about Romney's disgraceful record when it comes to gun rights. He signed several bills as goberner in violation of the second amendment.

But the fact is- he is now the nominee, and the time to nominate a real conservative has passed us by. I never did like Romney- he is not a conservative- but another big government republican.

But I may hold my nose away from the stench and vote for him- in order to get Obama out of there. I guess I'd rather have a big government republican- than a socialist in the white house.

The fact is- we need to keep a close eye on him once elected- and be ready to raise hell if he proposes any futher errosion of gun rights. And the fact is- we need to be ready with any of these big government types, don't matter if it's an "R" or a "D".

If if you really care about the 2nd and it's as important to you as it is to me- quit nominating these fools- vote Libertarian- or at least for a conservative who pledges to uphold the constitution.

That's what I do.

Libertarian?

The Libertarian Party's position on LGBT rights has remained unchanged since it was created in 1972. In 1975, Ralph Raico, helped to create the "Libertarian For Gay Rights" caucus within the party, and subsequently published "Gay Rights: A Libertarian Approach".

The second LGBT rights organization to operate from a libertarian perspective was the Libertarians for Gay and Lesbian Concerns. The organization held its first national convention in 1985, and sought to promote libertarianism to LGBT Americans.[1]

During the 1980s, the organization was affiliated with the Libertarian Party of the United States.[2] One of its activities was the production of a lavender pamphlet, to distribute at gay pride events, that explained the libertarian perspective on LGBT rights. Some of the libertarian views mentioned in the brochure are the following:

1) Repeal of all laws regarding consensual sexual acts between adults (with the age of consent reasonably defined). This would include abolition of laws prohibiting prostitution and solicitation, whether gay or straight.

2) Repeal of legislation prohibiting unions between members of the same sex, and the extension to such unions of all legal rights and privileges presently enjoyed by partners in heterosexual marriages.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertaria ... GBT_rights

Good for you... you're coming around to sanity.

archer wrote: None of that matters fish...he has the magic R after his name.

It's not that it doesn't matter archer. What it is instead is a recognition that you are not going to agree with any single candidate on every issue and process by which the pros and cons of each candidate are put onto a scale - the one with the least amount of negative properties then gets the vote. There is basically no difference between Obama and Romney on gun issues, so that one is a wash, but when viewed overall there is still more issues on which agreement with Romney is to be found than agreement with Obama is, and thus Romney will get the vote.

When additional candidates are factored in, the reality of the situation is that casting a vote for a third party candidate is not in any substantive way different than casting a vote for Obama. I agreed with Ross Perot on far more than I agreed with GHW Bush and I agreed with GHWB on more than I agreed with Clinton. Needless to say, I learned my lesson the hard way and won't be repeating it anytime soon.

If the citizens of the States truly wish to have the best candidate obtain the office, then we need to repeal the 12th Amendment and get back to having two equal votes for president cast by the States' chosen Electors. All that the 12th Amendment has resulted in is a way for party to trump person with regards to the Executive office. The 12th Amendment, along with the 17th, are the alterations which have allowed the respective political parties to create partisan division within the electorate. Get rid of the process by which a political party is able to decide who from their party will appear on the ballots ahead of time and we can get rid of the process of voting for the lessor of two evils and get back to casting our votes for the person we believe will be the best representative of the people in that elected office.

Gee, those were "years" ago...(or "weeks" ago...or maybe "days" ago). Don't worry, he'll "walk it back" (read: flip-flop) by tomorrow...