Democracy4Sale wrote:
pineinthegrass wrote:
Democracy4Sale wrote: Fact: He took MASS from 36th in the nation in jobs down to 47th...
Where do you get that Mass was 36th? I don't see that in the articles you posted.
I suggest you Google "Romney Mass 36th to 47th" You'll find several pages... I got it from the same sources you get your stuff about Obama.
OK, I looked into this.
Factcheck.org looked into job growth by comparing job growth the year before Romney took office (50th place) to the final year he held office (improved to 28th place) using BLS figures.
The Romney campain does something similar, but they look at job growth his first year in office (51st place including Washington DC) and say it improved by 19 spots his final year.
Either way is a common way to look at performance; compare what was going on his first year to what the numbers were his final year.
It appears the source for your 36th place to 47th comes from the Obama campaign. The reason you see it a lot when you Google is that many publications simply took it at face value and copied it.
The Obama campaign uses BLS figures as well, but they look at it over a full term of office (and I still haven't seen it fully explained just how they figure it), which is not standard from anything I've seen before.
http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/06/03/president-obama-and-mitt-romney-campaigns-battle-over-mass-job-growth-numbers-bureau-labor-statistics-supports-both/0g61oknM3KB9h1E0VWDlbP/story.html
But as I earlier pointed out, the job growth numbers are pretty meaningless if you already have low unemployment, as Mass did. Low unemployment would generally mean low job growth because you don't have that many people out of work and hence will not create a lot of new jobs.
Let's look at couple of hypothetical examples:
Suppose Governor A had 9% unemployment when he took office and reduced it to 7% his final year. That's a nice 22% improvement. But his state still has a bad 7% unemployment rate.
Suppose Governor B had 5% unemployment when he took office and reduced it to 4.5%. That's just a 10% improvement and he'd rank well below Governor A in job growth, but which state would you rather live in if you are looking for a job? And who really performed better?
When Romney took office Mass unemployment was about 5.6%. When he left, it was about 4.7%. When Obama took office national unemployment was 8.3% (Feb '09) and last month it was 8.2%.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
This is why the Obama campain is giving out their own calculations to the press. Again, it is based on BLS data, but they are spinning it by calculating it differently in order to cover up the fact that Romney had a much lower unemployment rate (yes, times were better back when Romney was Governor) and the unemployment rate also reduced more under Romney than it has so far under Obama. And it should of been easier for Obama to reduce unemployment because his rate was so high to begin with.
Let's face it, if Obama had reduced unemployment to around 6% by now as he had predicted he would, that's what he'd be bragging now about as he should be. But it never happened, so now his campaign is in major spin mode to somehow make Romney look bad (not that he was bad), because it's tough to make Obama look good in regards to the unemployment rate.