archer wrote: Otis I have always advocated for a balanced budget...if you ever actually read my posts you would know that, rather than assuming you know what every liberal thinks. Balancing a budget and paying off debt involves more than just slashing spending...same for a family or a government or a business. Cut where it is prudent to do so and increase revenue so debt can be paid down faster. A one solution approach, such as just slashing spending, will not accomplish as much as a multi-pronged approach. If a family is deep in debt just cutting their spending will not work as well or as quickly as adding new revenue to the cost cutting will. It's just math otis.
You know how I increase the revenue in my family... by working hard... not taking the money from someone and spending unwisely.
At least you understand the need to increase revenue when needed. That's a first step.
Lets look at that working hard bit.......for many that is working for someone else, and employer on one sort or another. They pay you to provide them a service.....you are in fact taking money from others, in return you gave them something they wanted. Our government is no different.....citizens want something from the government....they want a central authority to provide a standing military to protect them, they want roads and bridges across the nation.....they want want one central government to represent them in the world and protect them not just militarily but economically as well. What they want from the government is what they have asked for, through elections and their votes. In fact the government is working for you.....(OK the collective "you".....the citizens) and in return you pay them to provide those services, How you can call that "taking" your money when you don't call what you make from an employer, or from clients if self employed, is just an example of how much you have been brainwashed by your party to think of taxes as taking your money, not money you pay the government for what they do for you.
If, however, you are not pleased with the job your government does you can try to change the government, you can go find a different government who will also expect to be paid by you for whatever services they provide, or you can not pay the government for the work they have done and go to jail. Simple really.
one other thought.....how would you feel if the more you did for your employer, the less he/she planned to pay you......in fact, your employer could just decide to cut everyone's wages year after year. That is what Republicans want to do, cut the amount the government gets paid.....and then they wonder why this country is in an economic slump and the debt is so high. And the less they pay for the services they receive the more they complain that it's too much. Soon enough, if the GOP has it's way, the government will have no money, and provide nothing to it's citizens, and then the Republicans will complain about how the good ol' USA has dropped off the cliff economically, service-wise, militarily....and every other way you can think of. And this is why I will not vote for a Republican.......I don't want to live in a 3rd world country, and that is precisely where the GOP will take us if given the chance.
archer wrote: I won't believe conservatives are truly concerned about our national debt till I see them make the tough decisions about actually paying it down. Cut all you want, you still won't make a serious dent in it till you increase the revenue stream.
rofllol Glad to see you still have your sense of humor in the year of left wing suicide. It seems the Mayan calendar was not about the planet it was about the left.
Nobody seems to understand the gravity of this point.
In five years, the United States government will spend more on interest than on Medicare or defense spending.
archer wrote: At least you understand the need to increase revenue when needed. That's a first step.
No. The first step is acknowledging the fiscal problem and really understanding the parameters and being brutally honest with the voters. I don't think we are even at the first step yet. Really, I think the politicians know we are already beyond hosed and are going to kick the can as long as possible.
If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2
Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.
Under Obamacare healthcare will be anything but free.
Money for nothing? Welfare and food stamps are at being issued at record levels under the Obama administration.
You want your vote to count but there is example after example of voter fraud happening in favor of Barry and the Democrats.
You don't want Gubment to be in business's nickers but you favor Obamacare and every tax and tariff that makes industry tow the line. Medium and small businesses are failing at alarming rates, in the past year 23% of small business owners didn't take a paycheck.
The 1% already pays more than their fair share, keep attacking them and they will move their factories overseas. Have a good hard look look at the fall of the British Empire and then re-think where the United States is from an economic perspective.
Or do what you normally do and gaff it off then blame everyone else, HMS Barry can do no wrong.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus
archer wrote: I won't believe conservatives are truly concerned about our national debt till I see them make the tough decisions about actually paying it down. Cut all you want, you still won't make a serious dent in it till you increase the revenue stream.
Funny you should mention that. Do you happen to remember the effects on the revenue stream when taxes were cut in 2003? Tax revenue climbed from under 16% of GDP in 2004 to over 18% of GDP in 2007. One need not raise tax rates to realize an increase in the tax revenue stream archer.
archer wrote: Lets look at that working hard bit.......for many that is working for someone else, and employer on one sort or another. They pay you to provide them a service.....you are in fact taking money from others, in return you gave them something they wanted. Our government is no different.....citizens want something from the government....they want a central authority to provide a standing military to protect them, they want roads and bridges across the nation.....they want want one central government to represent them in the world and protect them not just militarily but economically as well. What they want from the government is what they have asked for, through elections and their votes. In fact the government is working for you.....(OK the collective "you".....the citizens) and in return you pay them to provide those services, How you can call that "taking" your money when you don't call what you make from an employer, or from clients if self employed, is just an example of how much you have been brainwashed by your party to think of taxes as taking your money, not money you pay the government for what they do for you.
If, however, you are not pleased with the job your government does you can try to change the government, you can go find a different government who will also expect to be paid by you for whatever services they provide, or you can not pay the government for the work they have done and go to jail. Simple really.
What I find truly amazing regarding this post is that nowhere, not once, does it mention the social welfare spending of the federal government which is currently the cause of our fiscal woes. If our federal government limited itself to spending on these items, which we all agree are necessary and proper roles of the federal government according to the powers it was delegated from those held by the free, independent and sovereign States that belong to the union, we wouldn't have a deficit problem that needed solving. The federal government is supposed to provide for the common defense of the States. It is supposed to represent those 50 free, independent and sovereign entities as one with regard to foreign relations and foreign trade. It is supposed to establish roads for the transportation of commerce and correspondence. All of these are among the expressly delegated powers of the federal government in our Constitution. What isn't there are the "interpreted" powers to provide not for the common welfare of all of the States, but the individual welfare of the citizens of those States and it is precisely these "mandatory" programs that are the source of the debt incurred by the federal government on behalf of all of the citizens of the States.
