How Romney Gets Away With His Blatant Welfare Lie

How Romney Gets Away With His Blatant Welfare Lie
The Welfare Card And The Post-Truth Campaign[/i]

It so happens that when Mitt Romney came to Ohio yesterday that I was able to catch one of his appearances, speaking to hundreds of coal miners in Beallsville. As expected, Romney hit President Obama for his “war on coal” (never mind that Romney in 2003 stood outside a coal-fired plan in Salem, Mass. and said that it “kills people.”) But he got his biggest applause during this riff:

I want you to know I heard something the other day that really surprised me... What I heard is that the president is taking the work requirement out of welfare. (Boos.) Yeah. We value work, our society which celebrates hard work, we look to a government to make it easier for jobs to be created and people to go to work. We do not look for a government that tries to find ways to provide for people who are not willing to work. And so I’m gonna put work back into welfare and make sure able-bodied people can get jobs.

Romney proceeded straight from this into a retelling of Obama’s “you didn’t built that” line, but even that did not get the applause the welfare riff did. After the speech, several in the audience told me that their favorite part had been Romney’s calling out Obama for weakening welfare work requirements. Yes, one of the more depressing parts of the job of being a political reporter is watching an audience fully absorb a blatant and knowing lie. Which is, of course, what this is. Countless factcheckers— here is one of many—have unequivocally rejected the assertion that Obama has ended the work requirement. His administration has instead granted more leeway to states, including several with Republican governors, to explore new ways to get people onto welfare into jobs, with the proviso that their new approaches must increase the share of recipients with jobs.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/106197/th ... h-campaign

Well, never let truth get in the way of a good Romney point...

(Remember "If we talk about the economy, we'll lose"... ) rofllol

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You gotta love this stuff... And the Kool-Aid drinking sheeple lap it up...

Sometimes the general public can see through the lies of Obama? Like pledging to get Americans back to work and having 2 million less employed than four years ago.

Like Obama's lies about having the most visible administration ever, unless you want to know about Fast & Furios, or want to read the ACA before it passes.

Like the shepherd boy, people just know Obama lies, if his lips are moving.

FredHayek wrote: Sometimes the general public can see through the lies of Obama? Like pledging to get Americans back to work and having 2 million less employed than four years ago.

Like Obama's lies about having the most visible administration ever, unless you want to know about Fast & Furios, or want to read the ACA before it passes.

Like the shepherd boy, people just know Obama lies, if his lips are moving.

...people just know Romney lies, if his lips are moving.

That goes both ways...

Democracy4Sale wrote:

How Romney Gets Away With His Blatant Welfare Lie
The Welfare Card And The Post-Truth Campaign[/i]

It so happens that when Mitt Romney came to Ohio yesterday that I was able to catch one of his appearances, speaking to hundreds of coal miners in Beallsville. As expected, Romney hit President Obama for his “war on coal” (never mind that Romney in 2003 stood outside a coal-fired plan in Salem, Mass. and said that it “kills people.”) But he got his biggest applause during this riff:

I want you to know I heard something the other day that really surprised me... What I heard is that the president is taking the work requirement out of welfare. (Boos.) Yeah. We value work, our society which celebrates hard work, we look to a government to make it easier for jobs to be created and people to go to work. We do not look for a government that tries to find ways to provide for people who are not willing to work. And so I’m gonna put work back into welfare and make sure able-bodied people can get jobs.

Romney proceeded straight from this into a retelling of Obama’s “you didn’t built that” line, but even that did not get the applause the welfare riff did. After the speech, several in the audience told me that their favorite part had been Romney’s calling out Obama for weakening welfare work requirements. Yes, one of the more depressing parts of the job of being a political reporter is watching an audience fully absorb a blatant and knowing lie. Which is, of course, what this is. Countless factcheckers— here is one of many—have unequivocally rejected the assertion that Obama has ended the work requirement. His administration has instead granted more leeway to states, including several with Republican governors, to explore new ways to get people onto welfare into jobs, with the proviso that their new approaches must increase the share of recipients with jobs.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/106197/th ... h-campaign

Well, never let truth get in the way of a good Romney point...

(Remember "If we talk about the economy, we'll lose"... ) rofllol

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You gotta love this stuff... And the Kool-Aid drinking sheeple lap it up...

Democracy4Sale wrote: OUTRAGE-OF-THE-DAY... ! Eeeeeek!

Chuck Todd smacks down Romney surrogate over false welfare claim

MSNBC host Chuck Todd and Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad (R) butted heads on Wednesday after Branstad accused President Barack Obama of undermining welfare reform.

“The biggest problem I think a lot of people have is the massive expansion of the food stamp program,” Branstad said. “We have more people on food stamps than ever before. They’ve liberalized the rules and a lot of people think they need to tighten that up — just like we reformed welfare in the 1990s, now the Obama administration is trying to undo the work requirement. We think that we need to, instead of trying to put more people on –”

“Well, wait a minute,” Todd interrupted. “Gov. Branstad, I can’t let that go. They haven’t done that. They haven’t undone the work requirements… Where did you get your information?”


But Branstad insisted it was “absolutely true” that the Obama administration had waived the work requirement in the Temporary Assistant for Needy Families (TANF) program. He said liberals and President Barack Obama had “always hated” the work requirement in the law.

“Every charge that has been leveled about this welfare reform order that this President signed — every accusation that has been leveled by some Republicans have been proven to be not true,” Todd said.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) last month encouraged states to experiment with better ways to administer the TANF program, informing state officials that the department was willing to grant waivers to states that wished to opt-out of provisions of the welfare law.

Romney and other Republicans have claimed that the waivers were an attempt to undermine the welfare program’s work requirement. But PolitiFact rated those claims “Pants on Fire,” noting that the waivers were actually “designed to improve employment outcomes.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/15/c ... are-claim/

They think if they say it a whole bunch of times, people will believe it's true.

Raees wrote: They’ve liberalized the rules and a lot of people think they need to tighten that up — just like we reformed welfare in the 1990s, now the Obama administration is trying to undo the work requirement. We think that we need to, instead of trying to put more people on –”

“Well, wait a minute,” Todd interrupted. “Gov. Branstad, I can’t let that go. They haven’t done that. They haven’t undone the work requirements… Where did you get your information?”


But Branstad insisted it was “absolutely true” that the Obama administration had waived the work requirement in the Temporary Assistant for Needy Families (TANF) program. He said liberals and President Barack Obama had “always hated” the work requirement in the law.

“Every charge that has been leveled about this welfare reform order that this President signed — every accusation that has been leveled by some Republicans have been proven to be not true,” Todd said.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) last month encouraged states to experiment with better ways to administer the TANF program, informing state officials that the department was willing to grant waivers to states that wished to opt-out of provisions of the welfare law.

Romney and other Republicans have claimed that the waivers were an attempt to undermine the welfare program’s work requirement. But PolitiFact rated those claims “Pants on Fire,” noting that the waivers were actually “designed to improve employment outcomes.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/15/c ... are-claim/

They think if they say it a whole bunch of times, people will believe it's true.

But you are wrong. They did mess up the welfare program. The "fact checkers" were wrong.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... es-welfar/

The purpose of the rules congress put in were to stop states from gaming the system. Obama's waivers allow states to do just that.

By "gaming the system" do you mean "improving the system" ?

I can't believe I'm arguing with a Republican that the states might have a better idea of how to make welfare more efficient than the federal government.

RenegadeCJ wrote: The "fact checkers" were wrong.

No, the Romney camp are liars. And no matter how many times they repeat it, and trot their surrogates out to repeat it, it's still a lie.

So the Obama administration is trying to deny people welfare benefits by mandating onerous work requirements in this horrible economy? What a heartless administration tone deaf to people suffering the Obamarecession!

And Republican governors are just trying to make sure people have enough to eat.

Obama has done nothing regarding work requirements for welfare...And repeating it doesn't make it true.

It's still a lie. Want to try again?