Romney-Ryan Medicare Plan Would Cost 29-Year-Olds $331,200

27 Aug 2012 17:59 #11 by PrintSmith
Again, you aren't paying into anything, you are paying for current consumption with your payroll taxes. The belief that you are paying into the system for your own future consumption is the fundamental flaw in the system, the fairy tale that keeps getting repeated and the lie that Republican ideas on how to actually make the fantasy reality over time attempt to address.

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27 Aug 2012 19:28 #12 by FredHayek
Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Let LJ regurgitate her talking points the Social Security is a lock box. Too bad the only thing inside are IOU'S

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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27 Aug 2012 23:05 #13 by Blazer Bob

Democracy4Sale wrote: Yeah, screw 'em... As long as the tax-avoiders, tax-cheats and TeaHadists don't have to pay into the system, let the Social Darwinism cull out the sick and weak.

"Let the bastards freeze in the dark." That's their answer to everything...

I was right...Pond scum and anthrax ARE higher life-forms on the evolutionary scale.


I do no know how you continue to type that with a straight face when you are so willing to sacrifice future generations of Americans to a life of poverty and ignorance on the alter of your hate for anything r.

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27 Aug 2012 23:17 #14 by archer

Blazer Bob wrote:

Democracy4Sale wrote: Yeah, screw 'em... As long as the tax-avoiders, tax-cheats and TeaHadists don't have to pay into the system, let the Social Darwinism cull out the sick and weak.

"Let the bastards freeze in the dark." That's their answer to everything...

I was right...Pond scum and anthrax ARE higher life-forms on the evolutionary scale.


I do no know how you continue to type that with a straight face when you are so willing to sacrifice future generations of Americans to a life of poverty and ignorance on the alter of your hate for anything r.


That's pretty funny.......you put the debt clock in your post like you believe that Romney/Ryan will actually make a dent in that debt? You have indeed drunk the conservative kool-aid. The only debt that will go down is that of the corporations and the wealthy....they have no plan to lower the debt, only to lower income for the middle class, lower taxes for the wealthy and the corporations, and lower the standard of living for the entire nation. Until the conservatives get off their lower taxes and never increase revenue platform, that debt will continue to rise, and the middle class (you know, those consumers who drive this economy) will continue to shrink.

Trickle down? we got the down....but we never got the trickle.

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28 Aug 2012 05:34 #15 by FredHayek
Archer what you are hypothesizing the Republicans will do is already being done for a fact under Obama. Less jobs. More debt. More wealth disparity and if he is elected for four more years. It will be deja vu all over again. At least "W" got growth over 1%

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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28 Aug 2012 08:08 #16 by Mary Scott

archer wrote: That's pretty funny.......you put the debt clock in your post like you believe that Romney/Ryan will actually make a dent in that debt?

We have deficit spending at over a Trillion dollars a year, do you actually believe that anyone can do anything about the debt?

Right now the only thing that can be done is slow down that debt clock. We have to stop spending.

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28 Aug 2012 08:17 #17 by Photo-fish

Mary Scott wrote: We have to stop spending.


Like the 2 billion we spent last week in Afghanistan, and the week before, and the week before....ad nauseum?

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28 Aug 2012 08:18 #18 by Mary Scott

Photo-squirrel wrote:

Mary Scott wrote: We have to stop spending.


Like the 2 billion we spent last week in Afghanistan, and the week before, and the week before....ad nauseum?


Yes. And who spent that money last week?

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28 Aug 2012 08:20 #19 by Photo-fish
WE DID!! Just like the trillion before that in Iraq as well. But some (on both sides) would have us going into Syria and Iran? :bash

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28 Aug 2012 08:24 #20 by LOL

PrintSmith wrote: Again, you aren't paying into anything, you are paying for current consumption with your payroll taxes.....


Actually, with medicare the small 1.45%x2 payroll tax only pays for part A current consumption. Part B and D are mostly funded with general tax revenues, deficit spending, and medicare premiums.
IMO the small medicare payroll tax creates a false perception that "I've paid for it", when it actually costs a lot more. The first step to reform is understanding the actual costs and revenues.

This article summarizes the funding sources.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pf_article_111891.html

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