Republican Lynches Empty Chair in Racist Presidential Effigy

20 Sep 2012 16:52 #11 by archer
Before you jump all over me for claiming I know what the blacks think about this incident....I don't....I only know how I feel, and something like that makes me very uncomfortable, and it just feels like as much a racist statement as a a protest against the president. You don't think so? fine, but don't claim you know what my perception is, nor my motives for seeing it that way. I have nothing to gain by calling it racist.

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20 Sep 2012 17:04 #12 by PrintSmith
The progressive agenda has a lot to gain by setting factions against each other though, which is why they benefit from keeping the racial divide from being bridged and why those who forward it seek to keep it from being bridged by continuing to focus on the racial aspect of our current president. I don't doubt that you, individually, wouldn't benefit by continuing to think in terms of race, I don't think any of us benefit long term by it. There is, however, a benefit to be had by a group promoting one's opposition as being against someone due to their race, or against a specific gender, or against a specific group due to their sexual orientation, or uncaring about a group due to their economic status. That's why the entire campaign strategy of the Democrats in 2012 lies in perpetuating and widening the division that exists instead of promoting their own candidate.

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20 Sep 2012 17:17 #13 by JMC

PrintSmith wrote: The conservative agenda has a lot to gain by setting factions against each other though, which is why they benefit from keeping the racial divide from being bridged and why those who forward it seek to keep it from being bridged by continuing to focus on the racial aspect of our current president. I don't doubt that you, individually, wouldn't benefit by continuing to think in terms of race, I don't think any of us benefit long term by it. There is, however, a benefit to be had by a group promoting one's opposition as being against someone due to their race, or against a specific gender, or against a specific group due to their sexual orientation, or uncaring about a group due to their economic status. That's why the entire campaign strategy of the Republicans in 2012 lies in perpetuating and widening the division that exists instead of promoting their own candidate.

Worthless words. Only 2 edits on your vapid post. Still true.

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20 Sep 2012 17:28 #14 by PrintSmith

archer wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: It is only perceived as racists by those who think in terms of race and who benefit by continuing to have others think in terms of race.

Wrong again, professor (I think that fits you rather nicely). You, a white guy, probably has a difficult time understanding how it feels to live in a black skin. I know I do.....even though I have many black friends, I know I cannot see the world through their eyes nor understand what it is like to live black in this country. Just as a man cannot understand what it is like to live as a woman, unless he decides to have a gender change....but even then he has missed the whole growing up as female experience. So you saying what is racist and what is not is a joke.

And you, a white woman, have no more, or less, of an idea of what it is like to be black, to grow up black, to live in our society as a black, than I do. By your "logic" that means that what you say is racist is a joke. If you were black and felt it was racist, then I would have a conversation with you about removing color from the equation and viewing the event through a prism of judging on the basis of the event rather than on the basis of skin color, reminding you that hanging a president or politician in effigy is a time honored form of political dissent in our Union. By having that conversation, the conversation moves beyond race rather than being chilled because of race. The discussion is only about race when one wishes to make that the subject and the focus of the discussion archer.

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20 Sep 2012 17:32 #15 by archer
PrintSmith, if you can't see that the Republicans are as hell bent on dividing this country as you claim Democrats are, then we really have nothing left to discuss. Next time you pontificate about those evil liberals take a look in the mirror and see if you are as guilty as those you vilify.

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20 Sep 2012 17:44 #16 by FredHayek

archer wrote: I don't know about you LJ, but I can't recall any rightie here ever saying that something a Republican/conservative did was in poor taste. I'm not talking just about this incident. No matter how badly a conservative behaves do you recall any conservative here responding in any way other than either
1. Get over it it wasn't that bad, or
2. A Democrat/liberal has done worse so it's OK.

So true Archer. Just like you are the biggest Obama critic ever. In fact when was the last time you said Obama even made a miss step.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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20 Sep 2012 17:52 #17 by archer
Go back over Obama's 4 years and you would find numerous occasions where I expressed frustration and disagreement with his policies and actions. ACA was not my choice, I wanted single payer. I felt he caved too often to the Republicans in Congress. I criticized his handling of Afghanistan, I could cite several more. Obama was not my first choice as candidate, but like PrintSmith expressed on another thread he comes closer to my ideology than Romney ever could. Balls in your court Fred, tell is how much you love Romney.

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20 Sep 2012 17:56 #18 by FredHayek
I don't love Romney. I will probably vote for Gary Johnson. But I do think Romney is more capable than Obama and will work better with both Dems and the GOP in Washington.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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