RMoney says: Let the 47% go to the Emergency Room

Better that we should just tell those who cannot afford health insurance, or who cannot get it because of pre-existing conditions, or those who lose their insurance because they are unemployed.....don't worry, as soon as we balance our budget, eliminate our debt, and the rest of the country is doing well, THEN you can go to the doctor. Meanwhile, the emergency room is available to you, and after they have bled your resources dry the rest of the American people will pick up the tab.

What? you say that it would be cheaper to cover your doctors expenses than to send the millions of you to the emergency room? Sorry, but we only, really, want to look like we are cutting costs, we don't really care how much we spend as long as the conservatives get to appear to be fiscally responsible. What? you want to know if the GOP will push for heath care reform once the budget is balanced? Really? no.....we won't, it's not a priority....keeping the wealthy fat and happy...that's what will make America great.

Except for the 6 million US citizens that Obamacare doesn't cover:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jmIII4FgDvIW-bij_fdHF4v0Whbw?docId=48328c71af0241c39aef95fda77612f7

F'em, they obviously don't deserve to have any medical coverage. So much for "universal health care."

Right....if we can't cover 6 million....lets scrap the whole thing and not cover 30 million. That sounds fair

otisptoadwater wrote: So much for "universal health care."

What's your beef? Did YOU ever want universal healthcare?

Which, of course, is a distortion, because there will be a sliding-scale, based on income, through the new insurance pools to help cover these people.

What's that you say? In the states that have GOTP governors who would rather screw their citizens, rather than see the program work, their citizens won't have that option? Well, what'cha wanna bet those citizens remember that the next time that Randroid governor comes up for reelection...

Democracy4Sale wrote: Which, of course, is a distortion, because there will be a sliding-scale, based on income, through the new insurance pools to help cover these people.

What's that you say? In the states that have GOTP governors who would rather screw their citizens, rather than see the program work, their citizens won't have that option? Well, what'cha wanna bet those citizens remember that the next time that Randroid governor comes up for reelection...

Woo hoo, more bureacracy and paper work! And less privacy. Want to get a refund for your mandated insurance? Fill out these forms too and include all income and benefits received in the last 10 years.

Woo hoo is right... It will see that ALL are covered by insurance; there will be NO life-time caps on the coverage, and they can't be excluded for pre-existing conditions; and if they make below a certain poverty-level income, they will be able to pay for it on a sliding scale. You damn betcha "woo hoo."

And the low noise in the background will be all of the sociopaths and Randroids grinding their teeth because their fellow citizens are finally getting coverage to protect their families, and keep them from bankruptcy in the case of an unexpected catastrophic illness. After awhile the sociopaths will go back under their rocks, and all will be quiet again.

Actually I could see people who live in the underground economy choosing their freedom over more goverment forms so they will continue to keep the emergency rooms full.

If they won't bother getting photo ID from the state, you now want them to sign up with the Feds?

Welllll.... It would appear that for all of the gnashing of teeth and screaming and threats to "no comply", at least one knuckle-dragging governor is quietly making preparations to COMPLY WITH THE LAW:

Brewer Quietly Reverses On Health Care
Liking It or Not, States Prepare for Health Law

PHOENIX — Like many Republican governors, Jan Brewer of Arizona is a stinging critic of President Obama’s health care law. When the Supreme Court upheld it in June, she called the ruling “an overreaching and unaffordable assault on states’ rights and individual liberty.”

Yet the Brewer administration is quietly designing an insurance exchange — one of the most essential and controversial requirements of the law. Officials in a handful of other Republican-led states say they are also working to have a framework ready by Nov. 16, the deadline for states to commit to running an exchange or leave it to the federal government to run it for them. That is just 10 days after Election Day, which is likely to decide the future of the law.

Given that the health care overhaul remains a lightning rod — just last week, Oklahoma revised a lawsuit against it — even the most tentative discussions about carrying it out in Republican states tend to take place behind closed doors or “underground,” as the leader of a health care advocacy group in the South put it.

The law requires all states to have exchanges, which are essentially online marketplaces where small businesses and individuals can shop for private health plans, in place by January 2014, when a requirement takes effect for most Americans to have health insurance or pay a penalty. If states fail to submit plans for running their own exchanges by the deadline, the law calls for the federal government to set up and run one for them, with or without their help. People with incomes between 133 percent and 400 percent of the poverty level can get federal tax subsidies through exchanges to make the price of coverage more affordable.

“If we have to have one,” said Donald Hughes, Ms. Brewer’s health care policy adviser, “then it would be better for Arizona to do it ourselves rather than defer to the federal government.” He said, however, that Ms. Brewer would not make a final decision on a state-run exchange until after the election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/us/li ... h-law.html

Welllllll, I guess given enough newspaper in the corner, and enough shredded-lettuce, even some GOTP'ers are "trainable"... If Brewer is "waiting until after the election", she should just go ahead and do it now...I don't think it's going to change...

FredHayek wrote: Actually I could see people who live in the underground economy choosing their freedom over more goverment forms so they will continue to keep the emergency rooms full.

If they won't bother getting photo ID from the state, you now want them to sign up with the Feds?

Gee, Fred...Getting a little hysterical there with the mixed-metaphors are we? rofllol

Photo-ID combined with complying with the ACA?

So, you admit that the Photo-ID ruse is just a way to get at the lower-income people you so despise? Got it... rofllol