New Evidence Destroys Major Romney Talking Point

27 Sep 2012 20:11 #11 by FredHayek
College tuitions and the bully pulpit. A President does have the ability to shame these college presidents into being embarrased at these outrageous price hikes. For example my university has built all new buildings in the 20 years since I left. The students have climbing walls, awesome new student center, but massive new tuition bills to go along with it. Much better food. Is this a college or a resort?

And like I said, Obama can't do anything about the loans before he came aboard, but at the rate of inflation, and the lack of jobs for graduates, much less those who drop out, the kids in college now will have debt issues just as bad, and exciting careers as barristas.

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27 Sep 2012 20:12 #12 by FredHayek
The President does give a budget to Congress. Reagan did, Obama did. The Obama budget was soundly defeated in a bipartisan slugfest.

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27 Sep 2012 20:14 #13 by LadyJazzer
In your opinion... The president can give his recommendations to Congress... It's NOT a "budget"... Congress creates budgets... Spin it however you like.

It was loaded with GOTP poison-pills to make it fail... B.F.D.

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27 Sep 2012 20:18 #14 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: The students have climbing walls, awesome new student center, but massive new tuition bills to go along with it. Much better food. Is this a college or a resort?


Nothing to do with Obama... Wanna try again?

FredHayek wrote: And like I said, Obama can't do anything about the loans before he came aboard, but at the rate of inflation, and the lack of jobs for graduates, much less those who drop out, the kids in college now will have debt issues just as bad, and exciting careers as barristas.


New evidence destroys the Romney talking point about destroying more jobs than he created... I don't care if you believe it or not.

The debt issues of the kids with student loans has already been explained. Obama has fought with the GOTP-controlled House over and over again to keep the loan-rates low, and Boner and his cronies have done everything they can to raise it.

Wanna try again?

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28 Sep 2012 07:53 #15 by BearMtnHIB
Love the title of your thread LJ- "New evidence"
Sometimes you should read your own propaganda before making such claims....

The Labor Department on Thursday morning quietly released a new benchmark for payroll employment in the U.S. It turns out that with the revision, there has been net job growth -- not much, but more than nothing -- during Obama's first term.


In other words- all they had to do over at the "labor dept" was change the way they counted employment, and they "quietly released a new benchmark".

Hilarious- like how they changed the rules so many times on how they count un-employment- everyone with a brain knows there a hell of a lot more than 8% unemployment out there today. If we counted the numbers the same way they were counted in the 30's, we would have 18% or more and if you count in the under employed- it's more like 23%.

It's the worst economy since the great depression!

Now here they are changing the rules at the labor dept yet again- in order to show that Obama has "created jobs"- and just before the election! How convenient. This is just more manipulation and propaganda and lies.

But whatever LJ- you can be the Obama cheerleader if you want, the rest of us know he SUCKS.

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28 Sep 2012 08:00 #16 by FredHayek
LJ,
Your looking at old info. Listen to NPR this morning? Everyone in the developed world is doing their own version of QE3, trying to pump as much cash into their respective economies as possible and it just isn't doing anything to stimulate the economy.
Typically this manuver is very inflationery and causes prices to rise, especially for energy, and oil did spike a couple weeks ago but now it is slipping again. The prospective orders for durable goods are going down. Looking very gloomy out there. Pretty sad when the central banks of the world are pumping trillions into their economies and no growth nor inflation.

A few more jobs? Maybe, but it looks like they may be very short term.

We did get some growth last quarter, 1.3%!!!!! Oh yeah, once again, not enough to keep pace with population expansion.

Keynes is dead. tongue: Long Live Keynes.

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28 Sep 2012 08:03 #17 by RenegadeCJ

Democracy4Sale wrote:

New Data Show Net Job Growth Under Barack Obama

The Labor Department on Thursday morning quietly released a new benchmark for payroll employment in the U.S. It turns out that with the revision, there has been net job growth -- not much, but more than nothing -- during Obama's first term.


What is a "new benchmark"???

Is that like when they changed clothing sizes because people were getting too fat? The real #'s don't change, we just change how we measure them?

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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28 Sep 2012 08:36 #18 by BearMtnHIB

What is a "new benchmark"???

Is that like when they changed clothing sizes because people were getting too fat? The real #'s don't change, we just change how we measure them?

Exactly - they "quietly released a new benchmark".
More smoke and mirrors.

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28 Sep 2012 09:15 #19 by LadyJazzer

BearMtnHIB wrote: Love the title of your thread LJ- "New evidence"
Sometimes you should read your own propaganda before making such claims....


The thread-title was copied from the source exactly as it appeared in the article. If you don't like it, take it up with the author. It's not my place to rewrite it for them.

I did read it, and I posted it because it DOES refute RMoney's talking point. I don't particularly care if you think it doesn't.

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28 Sep 2012 09:19 #20 by FredHayek

Democracy4Sale wrote:

BearMtnHIB wrote: Love the title of your thread LJ- "New evidence"
Sometimes you should read your own propaganda before making such claims....


The thread-title was copied from the source exactly as it appeared in the article. If you don't like it, take it up with the author. It's not my place to rewrite it for them.

I did read it, and I posted it because it DOES refute RMoney's talking point. I don't particularly care if you think it doesn't.


Translation? One of Obama in-the-tank stooges trots out data that has been given a new grading curve.
"for this quarter, anyone with 50% or above grades gets a pass."

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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