Obama: The Biggest Government Spender In World History

01 Oct 2012 09:02 #11 by LadyJazzer
He mocked no one.. But if you keep repeating it often enough, I'm sure you will still believe the talking point. You seem to be very good at that.

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01 Oct 2012 09:22 #12 by LadyJazzer
Well, let's see:

1) Stock market is still up around 13,500...

2) Home prices are rising

3) Home mortgages are once again rising and banks are investing in them.

4) RMoney can't use the talking point any more that Obama has "killed more jobs than he's created", because that's no longer true...

5) Manufacturing Jobs are up... So, that talking-point is gone...

Manufacturing sector grows for first time since May
By Reuters

The manufacturing sector expanded in September, shaking off three months of weakness as new orders and employment picked up, an industry report showed on Monday.

The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) said its index of national factory activity rose to 51.5 from 49.6 in August, topping expectations for 49.7, according to a Reuters poll.

It was the first time since May that the index has been above the 50 threshold that indicates expansion in the sector.

The forward-looking new orders gauge also rose to its highest level since May at 52.3 from 47.1, while employment gained to 54.7 from 51.6.


So, basically, all you have are your conservative echo-chamber, and some anecdotes from your right-wing friends.


...And all RMoney has got is that Obama hasn't cleaned up the disaster created by the GOTP fast enough to suit him.

...And in the end, I'm still not voting for the Social Darwinism Party...

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01 Oct 2012 10:06 #13 by FredHayek

Democracy4Sale wrote: Well, let's see:

1) Stock market is still up around 13,500...

2) Home prices are rising

3) Home mortgages are once again rising and banks are investing in them.

4) RMoney can't use the talking point any more that Obama has "killed more jobs than he's created", because that's no longer true...

5) Manufacturing Jobs are up... So, that talking-point is gone...

Manufacturing sector grows for first time since May
By Reuters

The manufacturing sector expanded in September, shaking off three months of weakness as new orders and employment picked up, an industry report showed on Monday.

The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) said its index of national factory activity rose to 51.5 from 49.6 in August, topping expectations for 49.7, according to a Reuters poll.

It was the first time since May that the index has been above the 50 threshold that indicates expansion in the sector.

The forward-looking new orders gauge also rose to its highest level since May at 52.3 from 47.1, while employment gained to 54.7 from 51.6.


So, basically, all you have are your conservative echo-chamber, and some anecdotes from your right-wing friends.


...And all RMoney has got is that Obama hasn't cleaned up the disaster created by the GOTP fast enough to suit him.

...And in the end, I'm still not voting for the Social Darwinism Party...


:wave: I heard a Fox guy take note with your rosy picture of the economy rising. The numbers have been so bad for so long, especially housing prices and underwater, that only 50% of mortgages being in the hole sounds like great news.
20% increase in car sales doesn't even bring us close to the 2006 car buyers. Etc.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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01 Oct 2012 10:10 #14 by LadyJazzer
Boy, you don't have much, do you...? :lol:

Wow...You REALLY "heard a Fox guy take note...."??? I'll alert the rest of the Media...

You can't make this stuff up... I hear that voice-of-desperation...

(Oh, did you hear that RMoney's one advantage point, "Is America on the Right Track/Wrong Track" numbers just flipped? Advantage: Obama.)

...And all RMoney has got is that Obama hasn't cleaned up the disaster created by the GOTP fast enough to suit him.

...And in the end, I'm still not voting for the Social Darwinism Party...

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01 Oct 2012 11:01 #15 by FredHayek
Social Darwinism party? The same party that has expanded social spending and the budget every year they have been in power. Typical poltical tactic, make the opponent look like a monster when in reality, thay are just a little bit different than your man.

And while you mock my source, Fox=Huff Po=political pundits, he is correct, millions of homes are still underwater, the auto market is still in the pits, GM is in danger of another bankruptcy. Sure there is a silver lining out there but it is a huge cloud and more on the horizon.

QE3
Taxageddon
Sequesteration..
Debt Level rising to 200% of annual GDP.

Already 1/6th of our debt is being bought by the Fed.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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01 Oct 2012 11:18 #16 by LadyJazzer
Don't like "sequestration"? Talk to the GOTP boys that made it happen... If they don't like it, they can stop it.

....Next...

QE3?.... If they'd spent enough on QE1, they wouldn't have needed a QE2 & QE3...

(Oh, did you hear that RMoney's one advantage point, "Is America on the Right Track/Wrong Track" numbers just flipped? Advantage: Obama.)

...And in the end, I'm still not voting for the Social Darwinism Party..

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01 Oct 2012 12:08 - 01 Oct 2012 12:19 #17 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: make the opponent look like a monster when in reality, they are just a little bit different than your man.


"A little bit different?"

No, "my man" didn't tell 47% of the population that they "are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax."

And that: "[M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

No, "my man" isn't the plutocratic out-of-touch guy that worries about his off-shore bank accounts and loopholes and thinks the other 47% (like seniors, active military, retirees who have paid into SS & Medicare for 50+ years), should suck it up and go to Emergency Rooms for health care. That's NOT "just a little bit different."


"A little bit different?"

You mean like:

Michelle Bachmann
Todd Akin
Joe Walsh
Mike Coffman
Allen West
Steve King
Virginia Foxx
Dan Lungren
Trent Franks

No, these people aren't "a little bit different"...They're bat-crap-crazy

...And in the end, I'm not voting for the Social Darwinism Party...

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01 Oct 2012 12:18 #18 by FredHayek
He was just pandering to his rich donors. Like Obama was pandering to his audience when he told them "you didn't build that".

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01 Oct 2012 12:33 #19 by LadyJazzer
Right... "You didn't build that", taken out-of-context (as usual), has some equivalence with telling 47% of the population that they

"are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax. [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."


You think that's remotely equivalent?

Have a look at the post-47%-comment polls (particularly in the battleground states), and tell me that's "equivalent."

That dog won't hunt.

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01 Oct 2012 12:43 #20 by FredHayek

Democracy4Sale wrote: Right... "You didn't build that", taken out-of-context (as usual), has some equivalence with telling 47% of the population that they

"are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax. [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."


You think that's remotely equivalent?

Have a look at the post-47%-comment polls (particularly in the battleground states), and tell me that's "equivalent."

That dog won't hunt.


Actually "You Didn't Build That" did go very badly for Obama for a few weeks. GOP Super PACS are still using it on billboards. :wave:
But never let reality divert you from cutting and pasting your Huff Po slanted opinion pieces.

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