No evidence organic foods benefit health: study

25 May 2010 09:44 #11 by LopingAlong

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25 May 2010 16:13 #12 by Moxieequestrian
Agree! Fruits and Veggies are just good for you - no matter if they are organic or not. NOW, if they are "organic" and have been tended to without chemicals/pesticides, etc. that is a complete different type of "health benefit" - just my opinion.

Heck, I get a box from Door to Door Organics each week of local fruits and veggies!

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25 May 2010 16:26 #13 by RivendaleFarms
The last part of the article supports that as well - the lack of chemicals/pesticides being perhaps more important to people than other perceived health benefits:

"While questions remain as to whether organic foods have any extra nutritional value, people buy organic for a number of other reasons as well.

Organic foods are made without the use of conventional pesticides, synthetic fertilizers, antibiotics or hormones -- which could potentially reap benefits for people's health and the environment.

The current review, Dangour and his colleagues point out, did not look for studies on the possible health benefits of reduced exposure to those substances. Nor did it address the environmental impact of organic food production."

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25 May 2010 16:48 #14 by Grady

Organic foods are made without the use of conventional pesticides, synthetic fertilizers, antibiotics or hormones -- which could potentially reap benefits for people's health and the environment.

Yes, but not necessarily so. I did business years ago with a certified organic orchard farmer, his trees and produce from those trees were certified organic. He did not use chemical pesticides or fertilizers on his trees. He did however plant other crops in between the rows of trees, and those crops were not part of his organic certification. Knowing the farmer I’m sure his main goal wasn’t to sneak inorganic fertilizer into his orchard, but was more of an accounting ploy. But that a little of the fertilizer that was applied to the other crop seeped into the fruit trees didn’t hurt his feelings

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25 May 2010 21:30 #15 by ScienceChic
I buy organic if it makes sense - fruits and veggies of which I eat the skin (strawberries, apples, zucchini, etc) and not ones like bananas and avocados - the pesticides are in much lower concentration thanks to the thick skins and since you don't eat the portion that has the highest concentration of pesticides, you get the bang for your buck. Also, I buy organic in order to support farming practices that are more beneficial for the environment (e.g. no-till, decreased use of fertilizers and pesticides, etc) and the health of the farmers who are reducing their direct exposure to nasty chemicals.

Here's some more info:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/nu00255
http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-foo ... -food.html (an organic site, but they seem to be honest about the uncertainties of the benefits so I cautiously recommend reading)
http://www.ewg.org/node/8792 Environmental Working Group Guide - supposedly they do research, but I haven't verified if it's reliable or non-biased myself
http://www.foodnews.org/EWG-shoppers-gu ... -final.pdf EWG's guide to the best and worst fruits and vegetables for pesticide concentrations
http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/nop USDA's National Organic Program
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/721892 pesticides and ADHD in children
http://www.pesticide.org/ResPHealth.html
http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/r ... etals.html MN Health Dept info on fertilizers - has links to EPA, but good overview for a state review
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/ ... 3444.shtml use as jumping board for getting ideas and and researching/verifying more

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25 May 2010 21:55 #16 by Sunshine Girl
Science Chic\n

I buy organic if it makes sense - fruits and veggies of which I eat the skin (strawberries, apples, zucchini, etc) and not ones like bananas and avocados - the pesticides are in much lower concentration thanks to the thick skins and since you don't eat the portion that has the highest concentration of pesticides, you get the bang for your buck. Also, I buy organic in order to support farming practices that are more beneficial for the environment (e.g. no-till, decreased use of fertilizers and pesticides, etc) and the health of the farmers who are reducing their direct exposure to nasty chemicals.
:yeahthat: Excellent! Thanks for pointing that out SC.


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26 May 2010 19:04 #17 by RY

WayneHarrison wrote:

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – Consumers who opt for organic foods often believe they are improving their health, but there is currently no strong evidence that organics bring nutrition-related health benefits, a new research review finds.

A "disappointingly small" number of well-designed studies have looked at whether organic foods may have health benefits beyond their conventional counterparts', according to the review, by researchers with the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Health in the UK.

Moreover, they found, what studies have been done have largely focused on short-term effects of organic eating -- mainly antioxidant activity in the body -- rather than longer-term health outcomes. And most of the antioxidant studies failed to find differences between organic and conventional diets.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100524/hl_ ... ZB49hzfNdF

I found this fascinating. I never buy organic. To me, organic means "with bugs." Any organic only people out there? What's your opinion?


just replied to it on FB

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26 May 2010 19:06 #18 by RY

Sunshine Girl wrote:

Grady wrote: I thought I heard on the news this morning that this study focused only on nutritional value and did not take in to account or even look at the presence of possible chemical additives, such as pesticide residue, or preservatives.



That makes a lot of sense! I don't believe everything that's written, or that I'm told. To me it's just common sense. Do I want to eat something with chemicals on it, or something without chemicals on it? Duh, no brainer to me. That said, cost has prevented me from eating the good stuff too often. But I do compare when I shop and if the price is the same I go for the better choice. All to often I hear "experts" (a legend in their own minds more like lol ) debunk the notion of organic. Right. They are "experts" on everything. I don't listen to their dribble or b.s. either. It's just common sense!


YESSSS I so agree, Sunshine Girl!

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