We earned a lot of political capital, now lets spend it

09 Nov 2012 09:06 #11 by FredHayek
5 trillion dollars is big money even to a whale like you. When tax receipts started falling, it was a good time to look at reducing spending, but Obama, Pelosi, & Reid turned the faucet up.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Nov 2012 09:16 #12 by Nobody that matters

FredHayek wrote: 5 trillion dollars is big money even to a whale like you. When tax receipts started falling, it was a good time to look at reducing spending, but Obama, Pelosi, & Reid turned the faucet up.


They think John Maynard Keynes was d'bomb!

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09 Nov 2012 09:19 #13 by UNDER MODERATION
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These guys will do whatever they can to raise your wages..Corporate America is sitting on trillions of dollars, they don't need tax breaks, they need more consumers- Our demands are all being met and when consumers demand more, buisness with invest more and hire people to give it to us.....You just can't create jobs when none are needed, and attacking labor unions (AKA attacking all our wages) only makes things worse. You retards cheered wisconsin teachers taking pay cuts?

I have hope now..Nobody's attacking me, nobody is trying to take power from me, nobody is trying to take my voice in the workplace away..Republican Democrat or whatever, all I want is as much power as one person can have. Thats what i'm all about...We need campiegn Fianance reform- Thats the biggest issue facing our democracy right now

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/petition/ ... 2c39342c6c

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09 Nov 2012 11:07 #14 by Raees

on that note wrote: Remember, if those in power behave like they won by 2%, we will have a great nation, if those in power pretend they won by 98%, that is called tyranny.

In 2004, George W. Bush won the narrowest re-election of a president since 1916. Earning just barely over half the vote, and just 286 electoral votes, Bush should have been humble. After all, if America had said anything in his two elections, it was that at least half of us didn’t trust him, didn’t like him, and didn’t want him in office.

A different man would have been circumspect, and worked to build bridges with his opponents. Bush, however, decided to govern as he had in the previous four years — with a slash-and-burn style aimed at punishing his enemies and rewarding his friends.

He made this clear in a press conference held just two days after the election, when he told the press, in no uncertain terms, that this was his country now, and the rest of us were just living in it:

You asked, do I feel free. Let me put it to you this way: I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it. It is my style. That’s what happened in the — after the 2000 election, I earned some capital. I’ve earned capital in this election — and I’m going to spend it for what I told the people I’d spend it on, which is — you’ve heard the agenda: Social Security and tax reform, moving this economy forward, education, fighting and winning the war on terror.


http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2009/01/13 ... -spend-it/

Somehow it wasn't tyranny then, was it?

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09 Nov 2012 11:15 #15 by UNDER MODERATION
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And didn't he lose the Popular Vote in one of his elections?

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11 Nov 2012 06:14 #16 by The Boss

Big Doug wrote:

on that note wrote: Remember, if those in power behave like they won by 2%, we will have a great nation, if those in power pretend they won by 98%, that is called tyranny.



rofllol Thats not how it works in this world, you either won, or ya lost. You lost and whata gonna do about it? You'll suck it, and you'll like it. Romney's not living in the White House 47% of the next 4 years..Romney will be selling reverse mortages on late night TV while "The Winner" of the election is in the white house for 4 more years. And you think youre gonna have a revolution over a president investing in our country? :wave:

People revolt when they familiy members are disappearing, being killed or when they are starving, you can't sustain a revolution because someone wants to give you healthcare... :rofl

F-ing drama queen


I did not suggest revolution, where did that come from? I just suggested respect of individuals regardless of who was elected president by a slim margin. I was just suggesting that it is not in anyone's interest to pretend this was an election of a King, which some, like yourself, certainly are. Your worshiping of your idols only makes me respect you less, but you don't want my respect, you want a leader to worship, and you got him, so get back to work worshiping. You don't have to worry about people like me, you will use your leaders to shut me up and keep me from doing what I want, that's what leader worshipers do.

By the way, in America, 1% of people do just disappear, 5% of people in their 20s and 10% of males in their 20s if they are black. But no one gives a crap...even that their kid has a 1/20 chance of being locked up before they are married. No drama there and there wont be, just keep locking them up. Get back to celebrating :wink:

It was just an election of a few people and far fewer issues. The only people that won had their names on the ballot. The same would have been true if Obama and Colorado pot both lost.

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11 Nov 2012 06:23 #17 by The Boss

Raees wrote:

on that note wrote: Remember, if those in power behave like they won by 2%, we will have a great nation, if those in power pretend they won by 98%, that is called tyranny.

In 2004, George W. Bush won the narrowest re-election of a president since 1916. Earning just barely over half the vote, and just 286 electoral votes, Bush should have been humble. After all, if America had said anything in his two elections, it was that at least half of us didn’t trust him, didn’t like him, and didn’t want him in office.

A different man would have been circumspect, and worked to build bridges with his opponents. Bush, however, decided to govern as he had in the previous four years — with a slash-and-burn style aimed at punishing his enemies and rewarding his friends.

He made this clear in a press conference held just two days after the election, when he told the press, in no uncertain terms, that this was his country now, and the rest of us were just living in it:

You asked, do I feel free. Let me put it to you this way: I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it. It is my style. That’s what happened in the — after the 2000 election, I earned some capital. I’ve earned capital in this election — and I’m going to spend it for what I told the people I’d spend it on, which is — you’ve heard the agenda: Social Security and tax reform, moving this economy forward, education, fighting and winning the war on terror.


http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2009/01/13 ... -spend-it/

Somehow it wasn't tyranny then, was it?


No it certainly was tyranny then too. My concerns are not party related, I see very little worth mentioning in the difference between the major parties, and even more importantly, their supporters.

Even though they see themselves as quite different. I see LJ and GOPtwin and Raees and Otis as the same personality types. All with tyrannical tendencies. The party loyalists are the problem, they see this as a battle between parties, in stead of a battle to lead your own life. Those that want to regulate the simple lives we lead more than we have already, are tyrants.

Folks around here need to start realizing that your party game is just a game. When someone points out something negative about say a Democrat, they are not supporting the Republicans, that is not the opposite of a Democrat, the opposite of Republican or Democrat is the Individual, the one that is really in charge of your life. Party loyalists or followers or worshipers are, in the end, anti-individuals. This is shown in many of the comments around here. I will give it to the Dems, at least they don't deny that they are trying to design your life. Perhaps the Bush comment you quote shows that the Repubs have just sunk to the same lowly level. Oh wait, I already knew that. But for the rest of you Tyranny will only be when the other party is doing it to you. I see the Tyranny on both sides, because that is the foundation of party and govt control, the use of force to get your way.

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11 Nov 2012 08:12 #18 by UNDER MODERATION
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on that note wrote: No it certainly was tyranny then too. My concerns are not party related, I see very little worth mentioning in the difference between the major parties, and even more importantly, their supporters.



Oh, another fence sitting, I'm above it all Phoney Piece of shit- I wrote this for TM in another thread, but it applies to you as well OTN.

Big Doug wrote: There are vast differences in the candidates....And they would do vastly different things in thier 4 years in the White House. I've complained a lot about Obama, but you cannot become The President of The United States of America without money and backing from the banks- But when it comes to War, Infrastrucue, Health Care, Education, Labor Relations, Consumer rights, Civil rights and just about everything else...Obama and Romney are 180 degree opposites.



You unsufferable bores- I'd be willing to bet that your spouses can't stand to hear you two speak, just guessing.

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