Demand a plan against illegal murders

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01 Jan 2013 07:07 #2 by The Boss
Plan.

1. Make murders illegal.

2. Take an enormous portion of the population and arm them and call them police to enforce the laws....there are a lot of these guys (and a few gals).

3. Sit back and watch how the system works and notice that here, in America, that gun violence kills so many less people than other things we already manage completely, like driving, getting hurt in your home and eating crappy food.

4. Ignore 1, 2 and 3 because we are bleeding hearts and nothing makes us feel better than over reacting in a way that makes the solution bigger than the problem, not even solving the problem.

5. Ignore 4 because the momentum is gone, it is not on the news much anymore and it has only been so many days. Time to face reality, if it no longer sells commercials on the precious "news" (or more realistically known as the hook to sell commercials), there will be no prescribed over reaction as people are calling for.

6. Once all else fails, plan more events to encourage more "news" and legislation.

7. Realize that if you push for new restrictive laws and they backfire and shooting increase, you become responsible as most know that restricting things does not get rid of them, it drives them underground to be used and distributed by the new black market. You can't kill markets when there is still demand, you only change the color. The color of the blood of those who die will be red no matter what color the market the gun came from is.

8. Think about pissing off 10,000s of gun owners that people here post are crazy all the time. How many people will die as they plan future action or the police come to their houses to take away the guns you own illegal? Restricting guns cannot include grandfathering, if a law includes grandfathering, you know it is there for political (to get someone re-elected) reasons. Think about locking up people you think might do crimes before hand and remember that the biggest crime in the USA is that 1% are already locked up and abused, many without real cause, except someone at sometime made a demand like yours. That's 1% of citizens, 5% of those in their 20s and 10% of black males in their 20s locked up because people like you demanded it and continue to do so. Remember that people rarely look back at policy and if you push for a new one, we wont look back on that policy either. We still live in the same economic policies that ruined our economy for so long. We are literally doing it again with the student loans and those obsessed with education as a brand. We don't look back to see if your policies work, so we should hesitate to have any policies under such a system.

9. If we do get a law, be sure that it is like the drug laws where you don't need votes from elected officials to decide what will be illegal, you just have to classify things. So if some group in some basement somewhere decides that a gun is in a group, it will be illegal immediately by nature that things classified to that group have already been outlawed.

So only the weak and stupid followers (and I don't insult like this much) would ask for someone else (a large group of corrupted folks) to simply come up with a solution, without offering the immense level of specifics being demanded, or history will repeat itself and you will be screwed. We don't need national action to dozens of people dieing. These numbers are just too small. One life is only so precious, we do not allocate unlimited resources and restrictions to honor just a few. The news outlets only honored them for profit (please remember this). We can honor and morn them without punishing ourselves, but I know it is hard, the concept of punishing one's self for the suffering of others is not new, but it is also not logical. There is no good action but to morn.

We made it to 5, there are likely a number of folks working on 6 and we will ignore everything from 7 up.

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01 Jan 2013 09:01 #3 by Mtn Gramma

Demand a plan against illegal murders

Is there a plan against plain old murders, as opposed to "illegal murders"? Inquiring minds want to know.

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01 Jan 2013 10:46 #4 by Grady
Hypocrite celebrities and their anti gun agenda.

Caution violence and adult language.

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01 Jan 2013 12:31 #5 by cydl
And while we're demanding plans:

Call for Carrot Control and an Immediate Ban on Carrot Production and Importation in the USA

Fellow Americans, I want to call to your attention the single most deadly killer in our nation today. The common orange Carrot. Unbeknownst to most citizens, this evil plant has been killing millions of our citizens each year and has been largely covered up by the Washington elite. The truth is they don’t want you to know the real threat to our way of life that the carrot creates because of the insider subsidization by the farming industry and the agricultural lobbyists pulling the strings of our politicians.

But here are the cold hard facts surrounding carrot deaths. The statistics show that every single American who EVER ingested a carrot has died! That is a 100% death rate. How is this acceptable? Don’t believe me? Here is the data.

2011 All Deaths in the USA was 2,513,171 citizens!

From 1960 to 2009 carrot yield in the USA has exploded from 18.3 million bushels to a whopping 28.7 million bushels per year. It peaked in 1997 at an unbelievable 49.9 million bushels! Data is provided from the US Dept of Agriculture website on US Carrot statistics. (Source: http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/MannUsda/viewDocumentInfo.do?documentID=1577 )

It is very difficult to correlate whether all the 2.5 million American citizens who died in our country in 2011 have ingested the evil orange carrot. So if we assume that only 90% of these citizens ingested carrots, that means carrots are responsible for 2,261,853 deaths in 2011 alone! Given the total of 1.3 TRILLION bushels of carrots produced in America since 1960 it would be hard to imagine that millions more decent, law abiding, freedom loving American were victims of the carrot! Think of how many innocent children have been murdered by mothers who unknowingly forced them to finish all their carrots at the dinner table which resulted in their deaths many years later. If only ONE life is saved from this menace it is worth it!

According to the CSFII report (Source: http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/198875/vgs31901_1_.pdf ), nearly 82 percent of all carrots were purchased at
retail stores and considered at-home foods
. The advent of convenient,
fresh pre-packaged carrot products in retail stores over the last decade has
greatly simplified the inclusion of carrots as snacks and lunchbox items.
According to analysis of the Nielsen Homescan data, fresh-cut carrots now
account for more than three-fourths of all fresh-market carrot retail sales
volume. In addition to a strong retail presence, fresh-market carrots also
featured a significant away-from-home share, with 20 percent of carrots being
sourced from within the foodservice sector. In comparison, 30 percent of freshmarket
tomatoes and 33 percent of fresh-market onions were found to be
consumed in the away-from-home market (Lucier, 5 and 6). Restaurants with
table service accounted for 11 percent of fresh-carrot consumption likely due
to salad bars, entrée salads, side dishes, combination entrees such as Yankee
pot roast, and hors devours such as carrot sticks. While just 3 percent of fresh
carrots were sourced from fast-food establishments (also known as quickservice
restaurants (QSR)), this share may be on the rise, with QSR chains
continuing to carry combination salad and vegetable options on their menus.


Carrots have been secretly pushed by lobbyists to be the new “Junk Food” as outlined in this article ( http://www.fastcompany.com/1739774/how-carrots-became-new-junk-food ). This is an example of the Overton Window ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window ) being intentionally moved to change public policy and implement a new carrot world order.


Also, it has been proven that carrots can be used as a deadly weapon as seen in this documentary on carrot violence ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7zbCeyYTys ). Can we as a society stand by and let good guys be savagely murdered by carrot wielding assassins such as this? I say NO to the “Assault Carrot”.

It is unconscionable that we continue this madness that destroys families each and every year!

We must call for an immediate cease on all domestic carrot production and importation of all carrot related products. We must limit any product that may have a multiple carrot capacity of nutrients such as vitamin A and Vitamin K. One carrot alone can have as high as 407% of vitamin A! (Source: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=21 )

We must limit all “high capacity” carrot products. Multiple carrots mean a higher likelihood of increased killing potential or severe injury resulting from intentional or unintentional carrot ingestion.

We must place an immediate 300% carrot tax on all purchases to deter citizens from purchasing carrots that may be already in circulation. Pricing the carrot out of the market may simply save thousands of lives!

We must force our President to place restrictions on carrot ownership and agriculture by executive order. He must use every bit of his power to curb this nation’s carrot deaths as it is an immediate national threat.

We must restrict carrot sales to authorized distribution channels and require background checks for carrot transfers. Ban all carrot distribution from fast food retailers or on-line sales. Limit any purchases of carrots to small transactions and not allow sales of large quantities of carrots at one purchase. Any transaction of more than one carrot at a time will require a mandatory form to notify the authorities of a multiple carrot purchase. Implementation of a 5 day ”cooling off” period for all carrot transactions. Close the “Farmers Market” loophole immediately.

Please, do your civic duty as Americans and contact your elected representative and ask for legislation on carrot control to be enacted immediately. It is of paramount importance to the safety of our children and much more important than the “Fiscal Cliff” and the largest tax increase ever to hit the American public in 50 years.

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01 Jan 2013 17:58 - 01 Jan 2013 20:13 #6 by UNDER MODERATION
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Mtn Gramma wrote:

Demand a plan against illegal murders

Is there a plan against plain old murders, as opposed to "illegal murders"? Inquiring minds want to know.


Don't be such a wisenheimer...You know what I meant.

You chose your own definition Gramma

1. wisenheimer

Someone always making feeble wisecracks, who laughs at his/her own jokes and is generally deserving of severe and painful punishment.


2. wisenheimer

Someone who makes smart aleck, sarcastic comments, often at inappropriate times and usually at someone else's expense.



3. wisenheimer

a wise ass, generally a nebbish trying to get over with a humorous, but usually feeble attempt to make someone else the butt of the joke. Wisenhemiers are usually called out and decsribed as such.


4. wisenheimer

a nasty bitch

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01 Jan 2013 20:13 #7 by UNDER MODERATION
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I say #2

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02 Jan 2013 11:14 #8 by Mtn Gramma

Big Doug wrote:

Mtn Gramma wrote:

Demand a plan against illegal murders

Is there a plan against plain old murders, as opposed to "illegal murders"? Inquiring minds want to know.


Don't be such a wisenheimer...You know what I meant.

You chose your own definition Gramma

1. wisenheimer

Someone always making feeble wisecracks, who laughs at his/her own jokes and is generally deserving of severe and painful punishment.


2. wisenheimer

Someone who makes smart aleck, sarcastic comments, often at inappropriate times and usually at someone else's expense.



3. wisenheimer

a wise ass, generally a nebbish trying to get over with a humorous, but usually feeble attempt to make someone else the butt of the joke. Wisenhemiers are usually called out and decsribed as such.


4. wisenheimer

a nasty bitch


Gee, little douche. You can't even copy and past right. Your #3 should read:

a wise ass, generally a nebbish male trying to get over with a humorous, but usually feeble attempt to make someone else the butt of the joke. Wisenhemiers are usually called out and decsribed as such.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... isenheimer

I am wondering, however, how my question was asked at an inappropriate time. Can't help it if it was at your expense, since you're the inarticulate OP.

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02 Jan 2013 12:36 #9 by UNDER MODERATION
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Ah...Its all so confusing

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03 Jan 2013 12:54 #10 by KJack

on that note wrote: Plan.

1. Make murders illegal.

2. Take an enormous portion of the population and arm them and call them police to enforce the laws....there are a lot of these guys (and a few gals).

3. Sit back and watch how the system works and notice that here, in America, that gun violence kills so many less people than other things we already manage completely, like driving, getting hurt in your home and eating crappy food.

4. Ignore 1, 2 and 3 because we are bleeding hearts and nothing makes us feel better than over reacting in a way that makes the solution bigger than the problem, not even solving the problem.

5. Ignore 4 because the momentum is gone, it is not on the news much anymore and it has only been so many days. Time to face reality, if it no longer sells commercials on the precious "news" (or more realistically known as the hook to sell commercials), there will be no prescribed over reaction as people are calling for.

6. Once all else fails, plan more events to encourage more "news" and legislation.

7. Realize that if you push for new restrictive laws and they backfire and shooting increase, you become responsible as most know that restricting things does not get rid of them, it drives them underground to be used and distributed by the new black market. You can't kill markets when there is still demand, you only change the color. The color of the blood of those who die will be red no matter what color the market the gun came from is.

8. Think about pissing off 10,000s of gun owners that people here post are crazy all the time. How many people will die as they plan future action or the police come to their houses to take away the guns you own illegal? Restricting guns cannot include grandfathering, if a law includes grandfathering, you know it is there for political (to get someone re-elected) reasons. Think about locking up people you think might do crimes before hand and remember that the biggest crime in the USA is that 1% are already locked up and abused, many without real cause, except someone at sometime made a demand like yours. That's 1% of citizens, 5% of those in their 20s and 10% of black males in their 20s locked up because people like you demanded it and continue to do so. Remember that people rarely look back at policy and if you push for a new one, we wont look back on that policy either. We still live in the same economic policies that ruined our economy for so long. We are literally doing it again with the student loans and those obsessed with education as a brand. We don't look back to see if your policies work, so we should hesitate to have any policies under such a system.

9. If we do get a law, be sure that it is like the drug laws where you don't need votes from elected officials to decide what will be illegal, you just have to classify things. So if some group in some basement somewhere decides that a gun is in a group, it will be illegal immediately by nature that things classified to that group have already been outlawed.

So only the weak and stupid followers (and I don't insult like this much) would ask for someone else (a large group of corrupted folks) to simply come up with a solution, without offering the immense level of specifics being demanded, or history will repeat itself and you will be screwed. We don't need national action to dozens of people dieing. These numbers are just too small. One life is only so precious, we do not allocate unlimited resources and restrictions to honor just a few. The news outlets only honored them for profit (please remember this). We can honor and morn them without punishing ourselves, but I know it is hard, the concept of punishing one's self for the suffering of others is not new, but it is also not logical. There is no good action but to morn.

We made it to 5, there are likely a number of folks working on 6 and we will ignore everything from 7 up.

:rofllol :like: Well said! Illegal murders? :rofllol

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