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02 Jan 2013 18:06 #11
by otisptoadwater
Fred, I fear your faith in your fellow Countrymen is undeserved. Besides, how many bills are written at a fifth grade reading level and/or are short enough that it wouldn't take the average citizen a month to actually read it from beginning to end, never mind actually understand what they read?
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus
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FredHayek wrote: Both sides do it but letting the public and legislators get to read before they vote on should help to eliminate some of the worst earmarks or prevent some of our politicians from being re-elected.
Fred, I fear your faith in your fellow Countrymen is undeserved. Besides, how many bills are written at a fifth grade reading level and/or are short enough that it wouldn't take the average citizen a month to actually read it from beginning to end, never mind actually understand what they read?
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus
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02 Jan 2013 19:01 #12
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Oh Brother
Fred Hayek and OtisP Dimbulb... solving the worlds problems everynight @285Bound..
Fred Hayek and OtisP Dimbulb... solving the worlds problems everynight @285Bound..
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02 Jan 2013 19:34 #13
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The house has had plenty of time to change the senate's Sandy bill and take out what they didn't like, then send it back to the senate. But no.....they wait till the 11th hour and whine about how they don't like it ..tough patooties.....get off your butts and deal with the bill, create your own, make changes.....but for God's sake, quit your bitchin.
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02 Jan 2013 19:53 #14
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What it really boils down to is that if it were Louisiana, or South Carolina or one of the RED states, this would be a done deal... But since both NJ and NY were BLUE states this year, an "example must be made" by the petulant little weasels....
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02 Jan 2013 20:07 #15
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Heard Rep. Paul Ryan saying today they were working on a new plan to first bail out the Fed Flood insurance company and a couple other solutions for the Sandy victims. The House bill and Senate bill were too dissimilar to negotiate that soon.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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02 Jan 2013 20:10 #16
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Since bailing out the Flood Insurance program, while important and something that needs to be done, it has NOTHING to do with existing damage, since you can't buy retroactive flood-insurance. But then if Paul Ryan told me it was January, I doubt that I would believe him...
(Don't you love that 2 hours 50-something minute marathon he can run....?)
(Don't you love that 2 hours 50-something minute marathon he can run....?)
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02 Jan 2013 20:26 #17
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:rofllol But if HuffPo told you the sky was green, you would believe it...
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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LadyJazzer wrote: But then if Paul Ryan told me it was January, I doubt that I would believe him...
:rofllol But if HuffPo told you the sky was green, you would believe it...
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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02 Jan 2013 20:27 #18
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Since you wouldn't know a factual link if it bit you in the behind, I'll leave the source-less belief-systems to you.
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02 Jan 2013 21:35 #19
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Both sides are equally corrupt. Our government is broken and won't be fixed as long as we, the electorate, engage in this sort of "My side is better than your side" self-deception. Neither party represents the people any more. Until we admit it to ourselves all we will get is more of the same. Why did Boehner refuse to hold the vote for Sandy relief? I can think of no reason other than partisan politics. It made me ashamed to be a Republican, but I won't quit the party, just work to make it better.
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02 Jan 2013 22:01 #20
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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I don't think the Fed Flood Insurance should be bailed out unless they seriously overhaul the stupid thing. I'm sorry, but offering taxpayer-funded insurance to people to live in places that they shouldn't live unless they can afford to pay for true insurance plans themselves, or take the risk of losing everything, is going to lead us straight to collapse. How many Sandy's are we going to pay to rebuild from before our country is bankrupt considering that global warming is raising the sea levels and intensifying the strength of the storms so that damage will only continue to mount as time passes? Our [s:6zujxf60]leaders[/s:6zujxf60] politicians (BOTH sides) refuse to deal with this problem, preferring to kick it down the road and keep the subsidies rolling into those who line their campaign pockets, and we pay for it.
It's gotta stop.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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