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08 Jan 2013 20:07 #21 by archer
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FredHayek wrote:

archer wrote: But the dems didn't control the house for Obama first 4 years, and they only had a filibuster proof senate for a few weeks

Check your history. Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House from 2006 to 2010. Dem majority. Oh wait where is your source that the Dems didn't have the House majority after Obama was elected.

Spin skippy spin, Obama was not president in2006 and 2007...so no, he did not have a dem majority in the house for 4 years, only 2. And, the senate was not a filibuster proof majority.

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08 Jan 2013 20:21 #22 by FredHayek
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And the American people rejected Pelosi and restored the House to the GOP in both 2010 and 2012. They liked their Bush tax cuts which mainly helped lower income citizens.

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08 Jan 2013 20:26 #23 by Something the Dog Said
How much do the American public like Boehner? By the way, didn't more Americans vote for Dems in the House than Repubs?

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08 Jan 2013 20:45 #24 by archer
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FredHayek wrote: And the American people rejected Pelosi and restored the House to the GOP in both 2010 and 2012. They liked their Bush tax cuts which mainly helped lower income citizens.


Right....the Bush tax cuts were the biggest gift the wealthy had received in quite some time.....the middle class got chump change.

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08 Jan 2013 20:49 #25 by FredHayek
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Something the Dog Said wrote: How much do the American public like Boehner? By the way, didn't more Americans vote for Dems in the House than Repubs?

Nope. There are more Republicans House members than Dems. Pretty strange. Even in places like Ohio which Obama won the Republicans kept their seats. Clearly some people were splitting their ballots. Maybe an anti Romney vote than a anti Republican decision.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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08 Jan 2013 21:42 #26 by LadyJazzer
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FredHayek wrote: Oh wait where is your source that the Dems didn't have the House majority after Obama was elected.


Sorry, we don't provide sources to people who don't provide their sources either.

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08 Jan 2013 21:44 #27 by archer
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LadyJazzer wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Oh wait where is your source that the Dems didn't have the House majority after Obama was elected.


Sorry, we don't provide sources to people who don't provide their sources either.


Nor do we provide sources for things we never posted. I said the dems didn't control the house for 4 years of Obama's first term as you had previously suggested. Google it, the republicans took over half way through Obama's first term....surprised you had forgotten that Fred.

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08 Jan 2013 21:56 #28 by LadyJazzer
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This is an "oldie but a goodie"...Which makes it even more fun every few weeks when someone on the Right tries to use that standard (garbage) line about "Obama having the veto-proof majority for two years..."

The Big Lies of Mitt Romney V: Obama Had A Super-Majority In Congress For Two Years

This stood out to me in "The Lies of Mitt Romney III":

"we remember the president’s own party had a super majority in both houses for his first two years"

I'm not sure how Romney defines a super majority, but my recollection was that the Dems only had a filibuster-proof majority (including two independents) from the time that Al Franken was finally seated (July 7, 2009) until the point that Teddy Kennedy passed away (August 25, 2009). That's only seven weeks, not two years.


And there was never a supermajority in the House as Romney claims. The balance at the start of the Congress was 257 - 178, which is a Democratic share of only 59 percent, not 67. So again, Romney simply lied. Obama never had a super majority in both Houses, let alone for two years. In the Senate, his super-majority lasted seven weeks.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com ... years.html

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08 Jan 2013 22:06 - 08 Jan 2013 22:09 #29 by FredHayek
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archer wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Oh wait where is your source that the Dems didn't have the House majority after Obama was elected.


Sorry, we don't provide sources to people who don't provide their sources either.


Nor do we provide sources for things we never posted. I said the dems didn't control the house for 4 years of Obama's first term as you had previously suggested. Google it, the republicans took over half way through Obama's first term....surprised you had forgotten that Fred.

Semantics. The house was Democratic when Obama was elected. He did blow his majority by 2010 because he was doing such a poor job. And for Ms. LJ Bush didn't. Have a supermajority in the Senate so you are admitting he was a much better politician than Barack? Supposedly Barack has all this charisma but he did lose 10 million votes in this election and very little of the bills he endorses ever make it out of the House nor Senate.

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08 Jan 2013 22:08 #30 by archer
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FredHayek wrote:

archer wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Oh wait where is your source that the Dems didn't have the House majority after Obama was elected.


Sorry, we don't provide sources to people who don't provide their sources either.


Nor do we provide sources for things we never posted. I said the dems didn't control the house for 4 years of Obama's first term as you had previously suggested. Google it, the republicans took over half way through Obama's first term....surprised you had forgotten that Fred.

Semantics. The house was Democratic when Obama was elected. He did blow his majority by 2010 because he was doing such a poor job.


no, not semantics....you made a mistake. In your zeal to make your points you often bend the truth......

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