The Drone Debate

Ahhhhhhhh....the real issue......we are in a cultural/religious conflict and the "enemy" is imbedded worldide. A very difficult situation.....but on the part of the Muslims......brilliant. IF we survive, our war colleges will study the brilliant 911 attack forever.....12 soldiers (sort of) caused us 10-30 Trllion$$$$$$$ in resources, created a police state and the end is not yet determined......all over gasoline for cheap American cars.......amazing....but true.

deltamrey wrote: Ahhhhhhhh....the real issue......we are in a cultural/religious conflict and the "enemy" is imbedded worldide. A very difficult situation.....but on the part of the Muslims......brilliant. IF we survive, our war colleges will study the brilliant 911 attack forever.....12 soldiers (sort of) caused us 10-30 Trllion$$$$$$$ in resources, created a police state and the end is not yet determined......all over gasoline for cheap American cars.......amazing....but true.

I agree witth most of what you said except for the "gasoline for cheap American cars". I've never seen evidence that we've benefitted by one barrel of oil. The left saiid we were going to take over Iraqi oil fields, yet we never did and never even tried.

Rick wrote:

deltamrey wrote: Ahhhhhhhh....the real issue......we are in a cultural/religious conflict and the "enemy" is imbedded worldide. A very difficult situation.....but on the part of the Muslims......brilliant. IF we survive, our war colleges will study the brilliant 911 attack forever.....12 soldiers (sort of) caused us 10-30 Trllion$$$$$$$ in resources, created a police state and the end is not yet determined......all over gasoline for cheap American cars.......amazing....but true.

I agree witth most of what you said except for the "gasoline for cheap American cars". I've never seen evidence that we've benefitted by one barrel of oil. The left saiid we were going to take over Iraqi oil fields, yet we never did and never even tried.

Does that make the war a failure?

archer wrote:

Rick wrote:

deltamrey wrote: Ahhhhhhhh....the real issue......we are in a cultural/religious conflict and the "enemy" is imbedded worldide. A very difficult situation.....but on the part of the Muslims......brilliant. IF we survive, our war colleges will study the brilliant 911 attack forever.....12 soldiers (sort of) caused us 10-30 Trllion$$$$$$$ in resources, created a police state and the end is not yet determined......all over gasoline for cheap American cars.......amazing....but true.

I agree witth most of what you said except for the "gasoline for cheap American cars". I've never seen evidence that we've benefitted by one barrel of oil. The left saiid we were going to take over Iraqi oil fields, yet we never did and never even tried.

Does that make the war a failure?

If oil was never the objective, why would that equate to failure?

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If oil was the objective, why didn't American companies get the contracts?

Rick wrote:

archer wrote:

Rick wrote:

deltamrey wrote: Ahhhhhhhh....the real issue......we are in a cultural/religious conflict and the "enemy" is imbedded worldide. A very difficult situation.....but on the part of the Muslims......brilliant. IF we survive, our war colleges will study the brilliant 911 attack forever.....12 soldiers (sort of) caused us 10-30 Trllion$$$$$$$ in resources, created a police state and the end is not yet determined......all over gasoline for cheap American cars.......amazing....but true.

I agree witth most of what you said except for the "gasoline for cheap American cars". I've never seen evidence that we've benefitted by one barrel of oil. The left saiid we were going to take over Iraqi oil fields, yet we never did and never even tried.

Does that make the war a failure?

If oil was never the objective, why would that equate to failure?

It was a question, not a statement.

OIL is the driver....really simple stuff.......IF there was no oil the ME desert there would still be the desert. Hydrocarbon technology started circa 1850 has driven armed conflict now for over 100 years. No fault here but USA elected to embrace automobiles, interstate highways and coal power plants (20% aged nucs have temporarily helped) lower standard building codes (utilities lobbied all over for this), air travel - a guzzler for sure - and WAR to protect oil. Europeans are also hooked on oil.....but France gets 95% electricity from nuclear and high speed rail permeates the continent. Change there is happening in a big way......here.....well it is evident......

The Muslims hold ALL the cards.......oil, massive amounts of wealth (our $$$$$) and a massive population bent on martyrdom....but USA put itself in this position....no crying...we can get out IF the people now in a police state can overcome the centralized power structure in WDC.......use the constitution and the ballot box ......and the streets. Worked when Nam was an issue......can work now if the population pain gets high enough......it is rising for sure.

I am unsure much will change and we will have more attacks on our country........

getting back to drones.......

Turns out the USA isn't the only place interested in the technology.

http://www.navdex.ae/files/idex_unmanne ... gramme.pdf

I'm surprised there haven't been any weaponized micro-drones yet. Imagine a small drone undetectable till the last seconds that could remotely target anybody, anywhere, and release a toxic gas or explode. How could you defend against it or find the person behind the controls?

Rick wrote: I'm surprised there haven't been any weaponized micro-drones yet. Imagine a small drone undetectable till the last seconds that could remotely target anybody, anywhere, and release a toxic gas or explode. How could you defend against it or find the person behind the controls?

No mini-drones that we know of...I am re-reading Dune tonight and the hunter-seeker that almost kills Paul feels like it is within our tech level.