Bill Preventing Gun-Possession for Domestic Violence Passes

04 Mar 2013 17:32 #1 by LadyJazzer

Bill That Prevents Those Convicted Of Domestic Violence From Possessing A Firearm Passes Colorado Senate Committee

A bill that would prohibit a person who has been convicted of domestic violence or is the subject of a restraining order from possessing a firearm passed in Colorado Senate committee Monday afternoon.

The state Capitol was flooded with both gun rights supporters and gun control advocates Monday while lawmakers listened to hours of testimony. Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Gifford's husband, Mark Kelly, testified in support of gun control in Colorado, urging lawmakers to pass the universal background checks bill -- House Bill 1229 -- which is being heard in the legislature today.

"When dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable," Kelly said, The Associated Press reports. Kelly also said that he and his wife, who was seriously wounded in a 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, Ariz., support the Second Amendment but believe that that right should not extend to the mentally ill or to criminals.

Although hundreds of gun rights advocates descended onto the state Capitol today as many others honked their horns as they drove by, recent polling from Project New America/Chris Keating and The Denver Post found that a majority of Coloradans' favor stricter gun control .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0 ... 07623.html

Hmmmmm...."A majority of Coloradans' favor stricter gun control"....

But it's always nice to see the smartphone camera shots from the RMGO...

It's also nice to see PEOPLE CONVICTED OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE and/or under RESTRAINING ORDERS for Domestic Violence restricted from having their guns. But y'all keep going to those meetings, now, y'hear....

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04 Mar 2013 17:40 #2 by LadyJazzer
Oh, and on the national scene:

Gun Trafficking Bill Gets A Bipartisan Boost In U.S. Senate

WASHINGTON -- One measure to curb gun violence in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre took a major step forward in the Senate Monday when a bipartisan group of senators agreed to push a bill designed to crack down on gun trafficking.

The measure, the Stop Illegal Trafficking of Firearms Act of 2013, merges a Democratic effort by Sens. Pat Leahy (Vt.) and Dick Durbin (Ill.) with a similar effort by Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill). It also adds another Republican as a supporter, Maine's Susan Collins.

The bill would make it a crime -- with stiff penalties -- to purchase weapons on behalf of someone else who is barred from possessing weapons. Such "straw purchases" are believed to be the leading source of guns trafficked to criminals.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0 ... f=politics

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04 Mar 2013 17:54 #3 by FredHayek
They already restrict convicted domestic violence people from owning weapons. Straw purchases are already against the law too. Good to see more laws that won't be enforced.

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04 Mar 2013 18:00 #4 by LadyJazzer
I don't know who "They" is... But if it were already illegal, then A) they probably wouldn't be passing the same law again, and B) the room wouldn't be packed with NRA/RMGO wackos trying to prevent it...

If straw purchases were already illegal at the FEDERAL level, then the US Senate wouldn't be working to pass it; and the NRA wouldn't be going bat-crap-crazy trying to prevent it.

But thanks for playing... Do keep us informed of the rest of your fact-free information.

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04 Mar 2013 19:28 #5 by Grady

LadyJazzer wrote:

Bill That Prevents Those Convicted Of Domestic Violence From Possessing A Firearm Passes Colorado Senate Committee

A bill that would prohibit a person who has been convicted of domestic violence or is the subject of a restraining order from possessing a firearm passed in Colorado Senate committee Monday afternoon.

The state Capitol was flooded with both gun rights supporters and gun control advocates Monday while lawmakers listened to hours of testimony. Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Gifford's husband, Mark Kelly, testified in support of gun control in Colorado, urging lawmakers to pass the universal background checks bill -- House Bill 1229 -- which is being heard in the legislature today.

"When dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable," Kelly said, The Associated Press reports. Kelly also said that he and his wife, who was seriously wounded in a 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, Ariz., support the Second Amendment but believe that that right should not extend to the mentally ill or to criminals.

Although hundreds of gun rights advocates descended onto the state Capitol today as many others honked their horns as they drove by, recent polling from Project New America/Chris Keating and The Denver Post found that a majority of Coloradans' favor stricter gun control .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0 ... 07623.html

Hmmmmm...."A majority of Coloradans' favor stricter gun control"....

But it's always nice to see the smartphone camera shots from the RMGO...

It's also nice to see PEOPLE CONVICTED OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE and/or under RESTRAINING ORDERS for Domestic Violence restricted from having their guns. But y'all keep going to those meetings, now, y'hear....



I don't think there was really much opposition to this bill.

Project New America, Naw they wouldn't have an agenda. :smackshead:

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04 Mar 2013 19:57 #6 by Grady

LadyJazzer wrote: Oh, and on the national scene:

Gun Trafficking Bill Gets A Bipartisan Boost In U.S. Senate

WASHINGTON -- One measure to curb gun violence in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre took a major step forward in the Senate Monday when a bipartisan group of senators agreed to push a bill designed to crack down on gun trafficking.

The measure, the Stop Illegal Trafficking of Firearms Act of 2013, merges a Democratic effort by Sens. Pat Leahy (Vt.) and Dick Durbin (Ill.) with a similar effort by Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill). It also adds another Republican as a supporter, Maine's Susan Collins.

The bill would make it a crime -- with stiff penalties -- to purchase weapons on behalf of someone else who is barred from possessing weapons. Such "straw purchases" are believed to be the leading source of guns trafficked to criminals.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0 ... f=politics

As usual the Huff & Puff. leaves out details in order to sell it's leftist view.

Actually, straw purchases have long been a federal crime. all this bill does is stiffen the penalties.

Illegal gun “straw” purchases, made by a buyer on behalf of someone who cannot pass a background check, are often not prosecuted under current law, usually because conducting such a sale yields such a weak penalty.

The new compromise legislation would make the consequences for both straw buyers and sellers far more serious - to the tune of decades in jail.

"Instead of a slap on the wrist or treating this like a paperwork violation, these crimes under our bill would be punishable by up to 25 years in prison," Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine said.

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I don't think there is a gun owner out there who doesn't think that penalties for using a firearm in a crime should be increased.

One of the sheriffs today testified that out of some 6 million background checks preformed last year. 300,000 were refused, 76,000 were submitted to ATF for prosecution, only 13. (thirteen) were either found guilty or plead guilty to attempting to obtain a firearm under false pretenses. Maybe the ATF was just to busy with other things? :Whistle

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04 Mar 2013 20:03 #7 by LadyJazzer
I'll settle for stiffened penalties...

I'll settle for busting every PoS that commits a crime with a gun going away for an extra 50 years...

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04 Mar 2013 20:55 #8 by LadyJazzer
And this, just a short time ago:

Bill That Bans High-Capacity Magazines, Limits Them To 15 Rounds Passes Colorado Senate Committee

A bill that bans the manufacture and sale of high-capacity magazines in Colorado and places a limit on them to only 15 rounds per magazine passed in Colorado Senate committee, Monday evening.

The Senate Judiciary Committee passed House Bill 1224 on a 3-2 party line vote as hundreds of gun rights advocates filled the state Capitol in protest of the seven gun control bills being debated today in the state legislature. Read the full text of HB-1224 here .

"This bill is an attempt to reduce the slaughter," Senate sponsor of the bill Sen. Mary Hodge (D-Brighton) said, The Denver Post reports.

One of the most vocal opponents of the bill, Magpul -- an Erie-based gun accessory manufacturer, one of the largest gun accessory makers in the nation -- had threatened to leave the state if the bill were to pass. Richard Fitzpatrick, founder and CEO of Magpul, reiterated those sentiments today during the hearing for the bill.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0 ... 08548.html

Gee, Mr. Fitzpatrick, (founder and CEO of Magpul), don't let the door hit ya on the way out....

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04 Mar 2013 21:55 #9 by FredHayek

LadyJazzer wrote: I'll settle for stiffened penalties...

I'll settle for busting every PoS that commits a crime with a gun going away for an extra 50 years...


Point made earlier. They aren't enforcing the laws against straw purchases or people trying to buy a gun illegally, why will new laws do anything? Especially when the new laws are pretty much the same thing.

They are releasing locked up illegal aliens and you think these new laws will make a difference. Will they just release these folk too? Have money for Obama's 6 million dollar golf weekend with Tiger Wood, but can't keep illegals behind bars.

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05 Mar 2013 08:19 #10 by LadyJazzer
Poor baby...You still haven't figured out the difference between people arrested, convicted and locked up for FEDERAL crimes, and people arrested, convicted and locked up for STATE crimes.

It's time to scamper back to your Fact-Free Echo-Chamber and find out the rest of the talking-point.

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