White Smoke: Introducing Pope Francis From Argentina

14 Mar 2013 14:12 #11 by FredHayek
Goes back to the old question of Pope Pius and the Nazi's. Is it better to fight the wind by bending like the reed and survive or fight it like the oak and die.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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14 Mar 2013 16:36 #12 by PrintSmith

FredHayek wrote: Pope Francis is a Jesuit so did he name himself after St. Francis of Assisi or St. Francis Xavier the famous Jesuit?

Does it have to be either one or the other? Could he not have decided upon Francis as a recognition of both of them, or perhaps as recognition for all 9 saints who were named Francis?

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14 Mar 2013 16:55 #13 by PrintSmith

LadyJazzer wrote: Yes, and I see he was very cooperative with the Argentine dictatorship:

New Pope Linked To Liberal Priests' Kidnapping, Torture
BY BRIAN MURPHY and MICHAEL WARREN The Associated Press

Bergoglio twice invoked his right under Argentine law to refuse to appear in open court, and when he eventually did testify in 2010, his answers were evasive, human rights attorney Myriam Bregman said.

At least two cases directly involved Bergoglio. One examined the torture of two of his Jesuit priests – Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics – who were kidnapped in 1976 from the slums where they advocated liberation theology. Yorio accused Bergoglio of effectively handing them over to the death squads by declining to tell the regime that he endorsed their work. Jalics refused to discuss it after moving into seclusion in a German monastery.

Many Argentines remain angry over the church's acknowledged failure to openly confront a regime that was kidnapping and killing thousands of people as it sought to eliminate "subversive elements" in society. It's one reason why more than two-thirds of Argentines describe themselves as Catholic, but fewer than 10 percent regularly attend mass.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/1 ... 69332.html

He could not have endorsed their work in spreading liberation theology because the Catholic Church rejects that theology, which is something that those Jesuits knew and ignored while they attempted convince others that they were spreading the teachings of Christ. Libertatis nuntius was issued in 1984, but the theology was rejected as false well before that edict was issued.

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15 Mar 2013 00:05 #14 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: Goes back to the old question of Pope Pius and the Nazi's. Is it better to fight the wind by bending like the reed and survive or fight it like the oak and die.


Well, yes, I guess it's always best to get out of the way and let them kidnap, torture and kill priests... As a coward, you get to "live to fight another day"... Of course, the priests you sold out didn't fare too well... But hey...All in a day's work at the Church of the Pedophile.

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