Boston Marathon Bombing & Immigration?

24 Apr 2013 09:06 #11 by Something the Dog Said
So now you have to drop down to lies, distortions and deflections? I am against criminals of any sort, but in particular to those who maim and kill innocents with weapons of mass destruction, such as Tsaernaev, Lanza, Holmes and others of their ilk have done.

I am also against persecuting those of particular religions based on the actions of a few extremists done in the name of that religion.

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24 Apr 2013 09:15 #12 by FredHayek
Is screening persecution or just smart?
And what Americans should expect from their goverment?

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24 Apr 2013 09:29 #13 by Something the Dog Said
Screening based on what? So now you are advocating that Big Brother become even more intrusive? And that the Constitution should simply be disregarded based on the actions of two criminals?

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24 Apr 2013 09:32 #14 by FredHayek
The FBI thought they needed to watch Bomber #1. Good to know you don't.

:idea: Screening? Do you have ties with Al Quaida groups? Do you associate with these radical Islamic groups? Do you donate to these organizations?

But then again the Left believes crossing the border illegally makes you an excellent candidate for citizenship.

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24 Apr 2013 09:37 #15 by Something the Dog Said
Those questions are already part of the application process for a visa in this country. So now you have to resort to broad brush generalizations that are total bullshit to justify your desire for discriminating solely on the basis of religion.

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24 Apr 2013 09:49 #16 by FredHayek
OK, lets bring in facts to the debate. How many Christian immigrant bombers have we had in the last 20 years? How many Islamic bombers from other countries have we let in under visas and legal immigrants? Underwear bomber? Times Square bomber? Boston Marathon bombers? Shoe bomber?

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24 Apr 2013 10:20 #17 by ComputerBreath
OK...let's bring facts into this debate:

According to Wikipedia (source link below): Since 1993 (20 years ago), there have been about 43 (I was interrupted twice as I was counting so I may be off by one or two) what the government calls "terrorist" attacks on domestic U.S. soil.

Of these 43 attacks, 21 were by U.S. Citizens not with a "muslim jihad" reason.
11 were by Muslims.
2 were by U.S. Citizens with a "muslim jihad" reason.
9 were by unknown assailants and/or for unknown reasons.

10 of these attacks were bombings. 7 by Americans and 3 by Muslims.

Several of these attacks were aimed at abortion doctors or abortion clinics.

Neither the underwear, Times Square, or shoe bomber were included in this list, because these attacks were not completed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_ ... ted_States

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24 Apr 2013 10:39 #18 by FredHayek
25% of completed attacks? And 5% of the population base?

Gun owners, .01 are murderers 99.99% don't shoot anyone, but lets ban guns.

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24 Apr 2013 11:19 #19 by Something the Dog Said
Nobody has suggested banning guns, but that is typical of the smears and lies propagated by those such as yourself.

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24 Apr 2013 11:38 #20 by Photo-fish
With the logic being presented we should ban immigration for anyone from any country, religion, belief or lifestyle that does not jive with the USA.
Sounds like some are advocating to lock the doors and throw away the key (unless you are a white Christian).

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