California To Walmart: 'Enough' Already!

archer wrote:

Mary Scott wrote:

Isn't this just what you want? A goverment single payer healthcare system?

LadyJazzer wrote: Absolutely!....It certainly is....

And what I want even more is for Wal-Mart to stop dumping its employees on State agencies and health-care systems just so it can increase its profits, at taxpayer expense.

Who do you think is going to pay for a single payer healthcare system?

Same people who are paying for the lack of a single payer healthcare system.....everyone who has health insurance, and everyone who uses our totally out of date healthcare system in this country. Just because you don't see on some dotted line what your costs are for the lack of affordable health insurance in this country, that doesn't mean you don't pay for the uninsured's health care....and probably more than if there was a single payer system in this country.

Exactly... Every $4 aspirin, every $10 box of Kleenex, every $50 antibiotic that shows up on your bill is paying for the healthcare of those who show up at the emergency room, when they are finally too sick to avoid it any longer. (Of course I realize the TEApublicans don't care about the sickness of others, but maybe if they start realizing the COSTS of it, and it hits them in their official AynRand pocketbooks it will get their attention)

Those $4 Aspirin are paying for the Medicare & Medicaid patients since goverment isn't covering the complete cost of providing care...irony...the Feds are doing just like Wal-Mart, pushing their medical costs onto private insurance companies and their customers.
Will California go after the Federal Goverment?

No...It isn't. But continue your fantasy.

LadyJazzer wrote: No...It isn't. But continue your fantasy.

If Medicare and Medicaid were paying the complete costs, then doctors wouldn't be refusing new patients.

You think it costs you more to subsidize someone who has medicare than it does someone who pays nothing? Medicare pays for the uninsured right along with every other insurance company.... Which, of course, costs all of us. Compare sometime the reimbursement from medicare to doctors and hospitals and that from an insurance company like BC/BS... there isn't a big difference, in many cases they are within a dollar or two.

FredHayek wrote: Hilary Clinton is also on the board of Monsanto, genetically modified corn anyone? But LJ will still support her campaign for President. Poison us? Still will vote for Hillary. Take stock options from evil Wal-Mart? LJ will still vote for her.

Why, yes...I will...

It would be a cold day in he11 before I'd vote for any of the teabagger looney's on the right. And I can hardly wait to see which "wacko-bird" ultimately bubbles to the surface for the GOTP in 2016...

We've seen the last Republican president in my lifetime...

archer wrote: You think it costs you more to subsidize someone who has medicare than it does someone who pays nothing? Medicare pays for the uninsured right along with every other insurance company.... Which, of course, costs all of us. Compare sometime the reimbursement from medicare to doctors and hospitals and that from an insurance company like BC/BS... there isn't a big difference, in many cases they are within a dollar or two.

Then why aren't doctor's refusing private insurance?

You talk as if ALL doctors are refusing Medicare, when it's a very, VERY tiny percentage...

You got PROOF?...You got a SOURCE, (other than the usual teabagger talking-points)?.... Put it up... Oh, wait... You don't believe in sources.

archer wrote: You think it costs you more to subsidize someone who has medicare than it does someone who pays nothing? Medicare pays for the uninsured right along with every other insurance company.... Which, of course, costs all of us. Compare sometime the reimbursement from medicare to doctors and hospitals and that from an insurance company like BC/BS... there isn't a big difference, in many cases they are within a dollar or two.

All of Medicare, and Medicaid for that matter, is a subsidy. It is taxing those who are currently working for the costs of caring for those who no longer are. There is not a single bit of difference between paying for all of Medicare and Medicaid with the taxes levied on those who are working and paying for the costs of the uninsured when they visit an emergency room. Those who are working are paying 100% of all of those costs, in taxes, insurance premiums and paying for actual services received.

Yep.... I paid into medicare all my working life to pay for others.... I also paid into BC/BS for decades without using it much and that too paid for others who used it more, that is how insurance works. Far different than paying for those who don't have any insurance through higher costs for medical care.