SCOTUS Strikes Part Of The Voting Rights Act

25 Jun 2013 12:07 #11 by Something the Dog Said

FredHayek wrote: And why did VRA originally come about? Because of southern Democrats "discouraging" minority voting.

So now that it is southern Republicans discouraging minority voting, it is ok?

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25 Jun 2013 12:09 #12 by Something the Dog Said

Walter L Newton wrote: It really bugs Something the Dog Said when the "if you're white, you're automatically a racist" meme is busted.

Wow, playing the race card. Why do you lie about such things? Show me a single statement that supports your smear.

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25 Jun 2013 12:15 #13 by Reverend Revelant

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Walter L Newton wrote: It really bugs Something the Dog Said when the "if you're white, you're automatically a racist" meme is busted.

Wow, playing the race card. Why do you lie about such things? Show me a single statement that supports your smear.


Tough. Who said you ever said it... I was talking about a meme that exists on the left... to bad you put yourself in that camp. I can't do anything about that. If the shoe fits...

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25 Jun 2013 12:16 #14 by Reverend Revelant
This surely is not research done by right wing scholars...

http://www.sociologyinfocus.com/2012/01 ... re-racist/

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25 Jun 2013 12:18 #15 by Reverend Revelant
And remember...

"Congress could have updated the coverage formula at that time, but did not do so. Its failure to act leaves us today with no choice but to declare §4(b) unconstitutional."

Tough tootie for the Democrats who like to pull the race card every time they can.

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25 Jun 2013 12:21 #16 by Something the Dog Said

Walter L Newton wrote: From the SCOTUS PDF linked to above...

Striking down an Act of Congress “is the gravest and most delicate duty that this Court is called on to perform.” Blodgett v. Holden, 275 U. S. 142, 148 (1927) (Holmes, J., concurring). We do not do so lightly. That is why, in 2009, we took care to avoid ruling on the constitutionality of the Voting Rights Act when asked to do so, and instead resolved the case then before us on statutory grounds. But in issuing that decision, we expressed our broader concerns about the constitutionality of the Act. Congress could have updated the coverage formula at that time, but did not do so. Its failure to act leaves us today with no choice but to declare §4(b) unconstitutional. [/b][/i] The formula in that section can no longer be used as a basis for subjecting jurisdictions to preclearance.

Our decision in no way affects the permanent, nationwide ban on racial discrimination in voting found in §2. We issue no holding on §5 itself, only on the coverage formula. Congress may draft another formula based on current conditions. Such a formula is an initial prerequisite to a determination that exceptional conditions still exist justifying such an “extraordinary departure from the traditional course of relations between the States and the Federal Government.” Presley, 502 U. S., at 500–501. Our country has changed, and while any racial discrimination in voting is too much, Congress must ensure that the
legislation it passes to remedy that problem speaks to current conditions.


Deciding on the current constitutionality of a law... just doing the job they are suppose to do. Remember that constitution thing?

Four years ago it was constitutional when they upheld this very section as constitutional in Northwest Austin Municipal Utiltiy District, yet today it is not. What has changed in those four years?

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25 Jun 2013 12:22 #17 by Something the Dog Said

Walter L Newton wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Walter L Newton wrote: It really bugs Something the Dog Said when the "if you're white, you're automatically a racist" meme is busted.

Wow, playing the race card. Why do you lie about such things? Show me a single statement that supports your smear.


Tough. Who said you ever said it... I was talking about a meme that exists on the left... to bad you put yourself in that camp. I can't do anything about that. If the shoe fits...

Wow, continue your smears and lies, since your shoe fits that meme.

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25 Jun 2013 12:28 #18 by Reverend Revelant

Something the Dog Said wrote: Four years ago it was constitutional when they upheld this very section as constitutional in Northwest Austin Municipal Utiltiy District, yet today it is not. What has changed in those four years?


Ask them... I wasn't inside the court today... read full text of the ruling... I linked to it above... if you don't like it... talk to someone on the left... one of your congresscrtitters... Holder (who is already whining about this)... Michael Moore... :rofllol

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25 Jun 2013 12:33 #19 by Something the Dog Said

Walter L Newton wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: Four years ago it was constitutional when they upheld this very section as constitutional in Northwest Austin Municipal Utiltiy District, yet today it is not. What has changed in those four years?


Ask them... I wasn't inside the court today... read full text of the ruling... I linked to it above... if you don't like it... talk to someone on the left... one of your congresscrtitters... Holder (who is already whining about this)... Michael Moore... :rofllol

So that is your response. When I question the conservative wing of the Supreme Court not deferring to the legislative findings of the representatives of the people, you play the race card and deflect, rather than honest discussion. Typical of you and your doppelganger Fred.

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25 Jun 2013 12:40 #20 by FredHayek

Something the Dog Said wrote:

FredHayek wrote: And why did VRA originally come about? Because of southern Democrats "discouraging" minority voting.

So now that it is southern Republicans discouraging minority voting, it is ok?


Differing views about voting. I would prefer my voters be legal and documented while you would rather hundreds of illegal/undocumented voters and/or felons be allowed to vote rather than deny one legal voter the right.

And honestly, do you think voter intimidation is just as bad now as it was in the Jim Crow days? Because if you do, you are lying, or denying the efforts and advances of MLK and others in the civil rights struggle.
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