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What Happened to the Anti-War Movement?
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08 Sep 2013 07:50 #1
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What Happened to the Anti-War Movement? was created by Blazer Bob
..." Norton said a war resolution will pass not because of the supposed merits of an attack on Syria, but simply "because of loyalty of Democrats" who "just don't want to see (Obama) shamed and humiliated on the national stage."
This is red-versus-blue tribalism in its most murderous form. It suggests that the party affiliation of a particular president should determine whether or not we want that president to kill other human beings. It further suggests that we should all look at war not as a life-and-death issue, but instead as a sporting event in which we blindly root for a preferred political team."...
http://www.creators.com/liberal/david-s ... 09-06.html
This is red-versus-blue tribalism in its most murderous form. It suggests that the party affiliation of a particular president should determine whether or not we want that president to kill other human beings. It further suggests that we should all look at war not as a life-and-death issue, but instead as a sporting event in which we blindly root for a preferred political team."...
http://www.creators.com/liberal/david-s ... 09-06.html
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08 Sep 2013 08:29 #2
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The USA sheep have no skin in the game.....IF draft were to be put in place the cowards on campuses would flood the streets. SIMPLE.
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08 Sep 2013 09:49 #3
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Ed Asher refused to condemn Obama's escalation of the war in Syria because he didn't want to be thought of as racist. Where are noted peace activists Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn?
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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08 Sep 2013 11:11 #4
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08 Sep 2013 15:09 #5
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Oh I think there will be quite a few Dems and Repubs who will be thinking carefully about this one, especially if they are up for reelection in 2014. Been watching Mitch McConnell dance around on this one.
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08 Sep 2013 16:39 #6
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It is not an easy decision to attack Syria either way, but I expect the President to go forward no matter what America and Congress say.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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WindPeak wrote: Oh I think there will be quite a few Dems and Repubs who will be thinking carefully about this one, especially if they are up for reelection in 2014. Been watching Mitch McConnell dance around on this one.
It is not an easy decision to attack Syria either way, but I expect the President to go forward no matter what America and Congress say.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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08 Sep 2013 17:00 #7
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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From Jill Stein, the Green Party's Presidential Candidate, Sep 05:
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/peacevoter
Peace Voter Pledge
Opened on September 05, 2013
Signed: 3,963 of 5,000
4 Petitions on White House Website Oppose U.S. Action in Syria
September 3, 2013 - 8:00 AM
By Susan Jones
MoveOn.org Petitions:
Say "No!" to US strikes on Syria!
On the Fence About Syria? Read This!
A quick reader on why military intervention in Syria is a big mistake - and what we should be advocating instead.
Sunday, 08 September 2013 10:46 By Peter Certo, Foreign Policy in Focus
We've set a goal of 5000 signers of the Peace Voters Pledge . Please sign now. And then forward the pledge and share it everywhere.
Following is information - a call to action - that I sent out earlier today . . .
Greetings ~
Take action today to urge Congress to vote against authorizing a military attack on Syria. Make members of Congress understand that if they vote to authorize an attack on Syria, their vote would not only be wrong, it would also have political consequences. The Green Shadow Cabinet asks that you:
Pledge for Peace
(1) Take the Peace Voter Pledge. "I pledge that I will not vote to reelect any member of Congress who votes for the Authorization for the Use of Military Force against Syria."
Sign now: http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/peacevoter
(2) Call Congress. Tell them you took the Peace Voter Pledge, that you "will not vote to reelect any member of Congress who votes for the Authorization for the Use of Military Force against Syria." Tell them why. Call them today and tomorrow at their local offices ( click here for directory ). Call them on Monday and next week at their D.C. offices (call the switchboard at 202-224-3121).
(3) Speak Out Online, In the Streets, and Directly. Help build a Thunderclap of online protest against attacking Syria. Join and organize demonstrations in your community. Go directly to meet with your congressional representatives.
Pledge for Peace. Thank you.
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/peacevoter
Peace Voter Pledge
Opened on September 05, 2013
Signed: 3,963 of 5,000
Sign the Peace Voter Pledge: Send a message to Congress that they will hear and understand.
"I pledge that I will not vote to reelect any member of Congress who votes for the Authorization for the Use of Military Force against Syria."
Join in making clear that we expect our representatives and senators to represent us. The job of Congress is not to serve (or undermine) the President. Their job is to represent the American people.
If we, the people, support a diplomatic, not a military, response to the Syrian crisis, we have to do our jobs and pledge our votes to peacemaking, not endless war.
Sign the Peace Voter Pledge right now. Then use the hashtag #PledgePeace to spread the word.
Thank you.
4 Petitions on White House Website Oppose U.S. Action in Syria
September 3, 2013 - 8:00 AM
By Susan Jones
- See more at: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/sus ... HIyrM.dpufA search of the website shows that as of Tuesday morning, Sept. 3, there were no petitions in favor of U.S. military intervention in Syria.
MoveOn.org Petitions:
Say "No!" to US strikes on Syria!
There are currently 53,038 signatures
NEW goal - We need 75,000 signatures
On the Fence About Syria? Read This!
A quick reader on why military intervention in Syria is a big mistake - and what we should be advocating instead.
Sunday, 08 September 2013 10:46 By Peter Certo, Foreign Policy in Focus
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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08 Sep 2013 17:59 #8
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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And how many Greens are in the House?
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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08 Sep 2013 18:11 #9
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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None, why?
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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09 Sep 2013 06:36 #10
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Aren't we traditionally bad a spotting a bad war before it happens.
See Vietnam, Iraq (x2), Afghanistan, Korea.
What we do is get all wrapped up in the nationalism to the point where we are willing to sacrifice our children and familes and then realize a few years later we were very dumb and did not bother to think about anything beyond nationalism.
I am sure some rich people got even richer off those wars, so perhaps they were justified by those that started them in the end.
We will have an antiwar movement, once it is too late....by the way, it is almost too late.
I say at a minimum, if we have another war, we should have a tax to pay for it start the same day. Perhaps something simple like an additional 25% tax on all income and property until the war is over. I think one of our biggest issues when debating war is that most are not involved, giving up a simple 25% seems like a good way to get skin in the game. I think if we go into Syria we should have another draft too. We need to make sure we feel the war, so we take it more seriously than the last two.
Plus, how can you have an antiwar movement if they cannot get the protesting permits...
Pssst. NO MORE OBAMA BUSH WAR.
See Vietnam, Iraq (x2), Afghanistan, Korea.
What we do is get all wrapped up in the nationalism to the point where we are willing to sacrifice our children and familes and then realize a few years later we were very dumb and did not bother to think about anything beyond nationalism.
I am sure some rich people got even richer off those wars, so perhaps they were justified by those that started them in the end.
We will have an antiwar movement, once it is too late....by the way, it is almost too late.
I say at a minimum, if we have another war, we should have a tax to pay for it start the same day. Perhaps something simple like an additional 25% tax on all income and property until the war is over. I think one of our biggest issues when debating war is that most are not involved, giving up a simple 25% seems like a good way to get skin in the game. I think if we go into Syria we should have another draft too. We need to make sure we feel the war, so we take it more seriously than the last two.
Plus, how can you have an antiwar movement if they cannot get the protesting permits...
Pssst. NO MORE OBAMA BUSH WAR.
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