If you shop on Black Friday...

19 Nov 2013 07:10 #11 by The Boss
One person's Christmas is another person's reason to go get Chinese Food.

Just like the JH, many Jewish folks work on Christmas so their goy coworkers can stay at home with family.

I guess like most issues discussed or legislated, this is not a public policy issues. We literally have decided this with specific thought through our govt in times that were more traditional than these.

The internet competition alone would make it almost criminal for a govt to force a closure day.

But then again, if everyone is closed, not competition issues, just problems for the public.

I asked a liquor store owner in a state that was voting on allowing sales on Sunday if he was happy it was likely to pass. He said no, he wanted them to reduce legal open hours to one hour on Wednesday. I asked why and he said he would have the same amount of business, but would only be open for one hour a week.

I told that to a dispensary owner a few years back when she was complaining about her long hours, she listened and reduced her hours, got her life back and sold just as much medicine.

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02 Dec 2013 11:56 #12 by Blazer Bob

Hippie Love Fest wrote: ...then you're part of the problem.

A little over 3 years ago I moved to Seattle and rented out my house. I was tired of all the stuff I had accumulated over the years so I opened up the house and either gave away or sold everything for pennies on the dollar. Afterward, I stored what I needed to set up household and any meaningful items in a 10X13 storage unit and left. I never missed any of it. Now that I'm back I am extremely careful about what I drag home. I love to repurpose things (except shoes and other unmentionables) and love shopping for mid-century items that I need to set up house keeping. So it comes very easy to avoid Black Friday. And I couldn't agree more with this blogger. I have never shopped on Black Friday and refuse to buy into the commercialization and frenzy. This guy writes what I have been feeling for a very long time. Besides, making soy candles and framing my grandmother's doilies for gifts is so much more rewarding and meaningful.

"I admit, it’s easy for me to forgo Black Thanksgiving. Stay home, eat food, and drink beer, or wait in long lines at dreary shopping malls, fighting with strangers over half priced Blu-ray players? Not exactly a tough decision in my book. But even if I stumbled into some demented parallel dimension where the prospect of shuffling like a dead-eyed zombie through Target on Thanksgiving suddenly seemed appealing to me, I’d still pass. If for no other reason, this reason is reason enough: I’m not going to force some single mom to ring up my worthless purchases instead of enjoying Thanksgiving with her children."

http://themattwalshblog.com/2013/11/17/ ... e-problem/


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02 Dec 2013 12:04 #13 by FredHayek
It appears that all the extra hours didn't translate into extra sales. Record numbers of shoppers but not sales. People were very careful about what they were spending on. Maybe this will inspire companies to give up on Thanksgiving as a sales day. And because of the poor sales, I am seeing better deals on cyber Monday than last week.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Dec 2013 15:35 #14 by bailey bud
I figure people shifted their spending ---- they didn't accelerate it
in which case - thanksgiving sales likely cost stores......

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02 Dec 2013 15:37 #15 by FredHayek
Cyber Monday is up 20% over last year. I would rather shop at home...or work.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Dec 2013 10:35 #16 by bailey bud
Most of Cyber Monday is electronics ----

Not much of the activity is really high cash ----

Lots of cell phones, some computers (they don't sell for as much as they used to), and a ton of pads.

NPR mentioned something interesting, this morning ---- the majority of e-traffic is over wireless connections. Seems like a big game changer --- where the wireless phone providers and Google (Owner of Android) are the big winners (and the old school land connections are starting to lose).

I'm wondering if 10 years from now - we'll hear, "mom - what's an ethernet cable?"

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03 Dec 2013 10:50 #17 by Blazer Bob

bailey bud wrote: Most of Cyber Monday is electronics ----

Not much of the activity is really high cash ----

Lots of cell phones, some computers (they don't sell for as much as they used to), and a ton of pads.

NPR mentioned something interesting, this morning ---- the majority of e-traffic is over wireless connections. Seems like a big game changer --- where the wireless phone providers and Google (Owner of Android) are the big winners (and the old school land connections are starting to lose).

I'm wondering if 10 years from now - we'll hear, "mom - what's an ethernet cable?"


No need to wait. What is an ethernet? I already know what a cable is.

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03 Dec 2013 10:57 #18 by Reverend Revelant

bailey bud wrote: Most of Cyber Monday is electronics ----

Not much of the activity is really high cash ----

Lots of cell phones, some computers (they don't sell for as much as they used to), and a ton of pads.

NPR mentioned something interesting, this morning ---- the majority of e-traffic is over wireless connections. Seems like a big game changer --- where the wireless phone providers and Google (Owner of Android) are the big winners (and the old school land connections are starting to lose).

I'm wondering if 10 years from now - we'll hear, "mom - what's an ethernet cable?"


When they mention "wireless" I suspect they are refering to wireless routers, like people have in their homes and businesses. There is no way that there are more purchases being made over cell phones versus wireless computer networks.

In our house alone, we have 4 computer users, all connecting (and possibly purchasing) over our wireless router.

This report has nothing to do with the phone companies, land line or cell phones.

Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD

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09 Dec 2013 11:29 #19 by The Boss

FredHayek wrote: Cyber Monday is up 20% over last year. I would rather shop at home...or work....


...than have viable local businesses for people to work or shop at. It is not evil, but is is the nail on the coffin. I am so glad I am not younger, in regards to opportunity, it is literally vaporizing for the have-nots.

I love the irony when I see typical families (with kids) with piles of ups boxes getting delivered to their homes. These families will stick together, not out of love, but out of desperation. The money Mom and Dad save by shopping on line will be needed to house, clothe and feed the kids they have as adults. Again not evil, but also not nearly as sustainable. There will be many more Detroits.

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09 Dec 2013 12:01 #20 by FredHayek
OTN,
It is just an update to consumerism, not a death knell. I buy nearly everything online, love the selection, the prices, and the ease. The only things I still go to stores for are groceries and shoes.
I have tried to go to regular bookstores, but I just get dismayed by the limited selection and paying full price.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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