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30 Dec 2013 14:32 #11 by Rick

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: "Tens of millions" have NOT lost health insurance... You got a source for that?

Otherwise, as usual, you are a liar.


Like Obama? "If you like your health insurance you can keep it." At one time the press said Obama's words were the truth, now they don't. Time will prove me right. :biggrin:
Care to make a month long self imposed ban if by the time of Obama's departure in 2016, over ten million Americans will have lost their healthcare insurance due to the ACA?
And I won't welch on it like another here. We are already over a couple million and it isn't even January.

As many as six million Americans who purchase health coverage on their own have seen their plans canceled, because they don’t comply with Obamacare’s newly-imposed regulations.

So with the million who have signed up, we still have a net loss of 5 million. The CBO estimated that iin 5 years we will have about 30 million uninsured... so there's that.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca ... exchanges/

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30 Dec 2013 17:19 #12 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: "Tens of millions" have NOT lost health insurance... You got a source for that?

Otherwise, as usual, you are a liar.


Like Obama? "If you like your health insurance you can keep it." At one time the press said Obama's words were the truth, now they don't. Time will prove me right. :biggrin:
Care to make a month long self imposed ban if by the time of Obama's departure in 2016, over ten million Americans will have lost their healthcare insurance due to the ACA?
And I won't welch on it like another here. We are already over a couple million and it isn't even January.


P.S.:

FredHayek wrote: "If you like your health insurance you can keep it."

I remember Geo. H. W. Bush saying: "Read my lips...No new taxes" too... Holding him to the same standard, are you?

I remember Reagan saying:

In an answer to a question about the nature of Vice President Bush's reservations about the arms shipments to Iran, President Reagan insisted at his news conference tonight that he had never traded arms for hostages.


...which was a bald-faced lie. Holding him to the same standard, are you?

Still no source for the "Tens of millions" that have lost health insurance?... Imagine my surprise.

Care to provide a source for that fact-free, source-free echo-chamber comment? They don't call it "The Stupid Party" for nothing.

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30 Dec 2013 17:48 #13 by FredHayek
Read the book "How Medicaid Failed The Poor". Obamacare promised tens of millions would be able to get medical insurance. That was the promise. Reality? 80% are being added to already overloaded Medicaid rolls. Once there they are unable to get doctors to accept their plans that average only 30 cents on the dollar. So guess what they either don't go to doctors or show up at Emergency rooms. The book above looked at surgery success rates and the uninsured actually faired better than Medicaid patients...and those on the program in blue States were less likely to find doctors willing to take them.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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30 Dec 2013 17:54 #14 by Rick

LadyJazzer wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: "Tens of millions" have NOT lost health insurance... You got a source for that?

Otherwise, as usual, you are a liar.


Like Obama? "If you like your health insurance you can keep it." At one time the press said Obama's words were the truth, now they don't. Time will prove me right. :biggrin:
Care to make a month long self imposed ban if by the time of Obama's departure in 2016, over ten million Americans will have lost their healthcare insurance due to the ACA?
And I won't welch on it like another here. We are already over a couple million and it isn't even January.


P.S.:

FredHayek wrote: "If you like your health insurance you can keep it."

I remember Geo. H. W. Bush saying: "Read my lips...No new taxes" too... Holding him to the same standard, are you?

I remember Reagan saying:

In an answer to a question about the nature of Vice President Bush's reservations about the arms shipments to Iran, President Reagan insisted at his news conference tonight that he had never traded arms for hostages.


...which was a bald-faced lie. Holding him to the same standard, are you?

Still no source for the "Tens of millions" that have lost health insurance?... Imagine my surprise.

Care to provide a source for that fact-free, source-free echo-chamber comment? They don't call it "The Stupid Party" for nothing.

Obama also said he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class, another lie.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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30 Dec 2013 20:52 - 30 Dec 2013 21:02 #15 by LadyJazzer
Still no source for the "Tens of millions" that have lost health insurance?... Imagine my surprise.

Since the ACA doesn't kick in until January 1st, I'm fascinated that you already have statistics for what will--and won't--happen when it finally takes effect.

Care to provide a source for that fact-free, source-free echo-chamber comment? They don't call it "The Stupid Party" for nothing.

And while you clowns want to keep fighting the ACA fight (that you've already lost), the Stupid Party still hasn't figured out that it's losing in every demographic except "old, angry white guys"---and you're running out of them. We're all so glad that the knuckle-draggers spent $10-million on a post-mortem about "rebranding" the party, and you haven't turned a single demographic around...In fact, in every category the morons have made it worse, and now the TeaBaggers are devouring and feeding on their own....(I thought you only did post-mortems on DEAD things?)

If you think kvetching about "ObamaCare" (which CANNOT BE REPEALED) is going to carry you through the next election, all I can is, "I hope so"... :biggrin:

PLEASE...Jus' keep doin' what yer doin'....

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30 Dec 2013 20:55 #16 by FredHayek
Tens of millions will lose their health insurance this year. I was even willing to put up a ban bet, but once again you aren't willing to back up your talk because you know you will lose. We are already at six million only a couple months in.

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30 Dec 2013 21:03 #17 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: "Tens of millions" have NOT lost health insurance... You got a source for that?

Otherwise, as usual, you are a liar.


Like Obama? "If you like your health insurance you can keep it." At one time the press said Obama's words were the truth, now they don't. Time will prove me right. :biggrin:
Care to make a month long self imposed ban if by the time of Obama's departure in 2016, over ten million Americans will have lost their healthcare insurance due to the ACA?
And I won't welch on it like another here. We are already over a couple million and it isn't even January.


P.S.:

FredHayek wrote: "If you like your health insurance you can keep it."

I remember Geo. H. W. Bush saying: "Read my lips...No new taxes" too... Holding him to the same standard, are you?

I remember Reagan saying:

In an answer to a question about the nature of Vice President Bush's reservations about the arms shipments to Iran, President Reagan insisted at his news conference tonight that he had never traded arms for hostages.


...which was a bald-faced lie. Holding him to the same standard, are you?

And, once again, you still have no source for the "Tens of millions" that have lost health insurance?... Imagine my surprise.

Care to provide a source for that fact-free, source-free echo-chamber comment? They don't call it "The Stupid Party" for nothing.

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30 Dec 2013 21:08 #18 by Rick
What will be LJ's excuse when employers are forced to cancel millions of policies next year? I'm betting she'll blame businesses, or Republicans, or Bush... or most likely she just won't give a shit because she'll say it's for the greater good of the collective.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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30 Dec 2013 21:27 #19 by FredHayek
The hill.com. The latest from the CBO says 20 million will lose their coverage.

LJ, I know must be really hurt by Obama and other leading Dem's lies. Her and America were promised this bright shining star of a medical plan to cover the 30 million who were uncovered. But we find out, 20 plus million of the people who will be getting healthcare are being shunted onto already overloaded state Medicaid systems that doctors refuse to provide services to people at 30 cents on the dollar.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, but the ACA is looking more like we have ruined health care for one hundred million Americans and the uninsured are now insured but no one will be providing them care.

Probably the worst policy blunder of any administration.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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30 Dec 2013 21:33 #20 by LadyJazzer
If you have a link, post it...Otherwise, telling me it's on "Google" or "CBO" is so much bullsh*t, and you're still a liar. You didn't say "They WILL lose" it...You said "...Versus tens of millions who have lost health insurance" You got proof?...Post it. Otherwise, you're a liar.

I'm not worried about "lies" any more than you were about : "Read my lips...No new taxes", or "No arms for hostages"...Or "Mission accomplished"...

Let us know how that works out for ya as a campaign slogan... And, PLEASE, continue to ignore all of the demographic groups that you no longer have any favor with... :biggrin: (The "old, angry white guys" are dying off...)

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